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"Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]: |
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| Quote: Boss Hog "
Totally Agree. The stumbling block could be his salary. He is not in a good bargaining position, given the number of games he has played for us this season, with regards to salary cap.
If he is prepared to accept a significant pay reduction, then I too think he will stay at Wire for a further year.'"
Which is why I wouldn't be surprised to see him elsewhere (Widnes or Leigh perhaps) next season rather than with us. And if that was the case, what are the chances he'll play the season injury free, look immense and leave us wondering why or what could have been.
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| Quote: Wires71 "As a policy there is some merit to the approach where we just look to recruit the best playing talent available at the time paying the transfer fee irrespective of where they were juniors. Eg
Briers
Myler
Ratchford
Currie
Clarke
Hill
This policy has some merit considering our long established dismal track record of developing any top class players from the Warrington amateur catchment area right through the youth system into first team.
I don't buy the sustainability argument either as I do not think it is any cheaper, salary wise, to keep a "home grown" player than it is to keep one we pinch from another sides squad.'"
Nothing wrong with pinching a nugget from elsewhere and we should aspire to having he best team, but, as a club IF you run junior sides and we do then we should at least have the wherewithal to see it though? Failure do that would be a waste of time and money apart from de motivating any home grown talent and future recruitment if the club are seen as paying lip service to development
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "Nothing wrong with pinching a nugget from elsewhere and we should aspire to having he best team, but, as a club IF you run junior sides and we do then we should at least have the wherewithal to see it though? Failure do that would be a waste of time and money apart from de motivating any home grown talent and future recruitment if the club are seen as paying lip service to development'"
Completely agree with the logic. But something may be wrong that we seem to not deliver any players from the catchment that make it to the top grade. Unless I have overlooked someone?
If it's not working - change it.
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "In short, no I don't think that Wilde has had a fair and proper opportunity this term and it's quite a feat for an understudy to become un-droppable, ask Dwyer (for what ever reason) and has Patton 'made it', nailed on?
BTW for clarity I never said that we should "just weaken the team" I was actually interested in how these POTENTIAL signings might impact on our up and coming home grown players'"
Let's ask it another way, has Wilde done anything is his performances this season to earn the right to more appearances next season? Patton has - he grabbed his chance by the scruff of the neck.
I hope any new signings give those you mention a kick up the arris and impetus to improve to a level where they are deserving of more chances.
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| Quote: Wires71 "Completely agree with the logic. But something may be wrong that we seem to not deliver any players from the catchment that make it to the top grade. Unless I have overlooked someone?
If it's not working - change it.'"
Why not widen the catchment area like Wigan have done this year - 7 Wigan Academy players toured Australia with our one Morgan Smith. All the "Wigan" lads were from all over the north, none from Wigan. We've done it before and there are current academy players from outside the local area.
WRT senior players, why do we always look towards buying ready made supposedly better players, why not look at as well what specific coaching is required for each team member to realise their true potential? Surely we can develop Evans, Russell, Lineham, Philbin, Wilde, Patton, even the internationals Ratchford, Hill, etc. So how much improvement is there in the current squad? Given that it is basically a young squad, there must be a lot more they can give with the correct coaching and conditioning. Players developed through a club's system tend to give more for the club
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| Quote: Wolf Hall "Why not widen the catchment area like Wigan have done this year - 7 Wigan Academy players toured Australia with our one Morgan Smith. All the "Wigan" lads were from all over the north, none from Wigan. We've done it before and there are current academy players from outside the local area.
WRT senior players, why do we always look towards buying ready made supposedly better players, why not look at as well what specific coaching is required for each team member to realise their true potential? Surely we can develop Evans, Russell, Lineham, Philbin, Wilde, Patton, even the internationals Ratchford, Hill, etc. So how much improvement is there in the current squad? Given that it is basically a young squad, there must be a lot more they can give with the correct coaching and conditioning. Players developed through a club's system tend to give more for the club'"
I think we have no alternative but to look internationally for our academy set up, and the evidence is we do with recruits from England, Wales and France. I cannot answer the very good point on the specific one on one development - Do we have someone that can train Evans, for example, to be a more effective centre? Or Lineham to be a more effective winger?
We do have 47 members of our "Performance Team" from Tony Smith downwards...
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