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eastul105 wrote lets be fair Mickey Paea is too good for us.:



Quote: 49er "Don't agree that we were outmuscled. In fact, I thought we stood up to the much vaunted Hull pack very well and were never bullied at any stage. Wilde, Jullien and King were significant kgs lighter than the Hull pack and bench and didn't take a backward step all night. Hill more than matched in form Taylor and Watts and we dealt with Pritchard pretty well.
Hughes and Westwood will stiffen the pack up and would have no fears about meeting Hull again.
Looks like the coach sees Cox as a bit of a luxury leaving us short in defence.'"

I suppose if you ignore the fact both Ellis and Mini muscled their way over you are correct.

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Quote: Snaggletooth "The who out muscled who and the who made most errors pails into insignificance for me, we keep spouting about how good the halfbacks are and yet we didn't have an end of set plan we just hoofed the ball up field and hoped for the best. This was the case last week at Stains, but last week we won and it papers over the cracks.

Gidley and Sandow can be wonderful with their attacking kicks but without the end of set defensive kicks we invite excessive pressure, this has to be addressed.

On another note when will Smith and Agar coach the team to build pressure before trying the wonder passes which end in us loosing possession?'"


Ridiculous!!

Sandow what fit hasvbeen great kicking!!


We didnt get to the end of enough sets!!

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Hull were exceptional defensively, we didn't look capable of getting over the line. Hull have used the old Bradford Bulls blueprint to perfection, build a massive pack, creative halfback with great kicking game, then fill the three quarter line with loads of big powerful backs. They murder you when they get in the 20.

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Quote: Deus Dat Incrementum "I don't think that we lost a lot of possession through throwing the ball about too much. Gidley was pinged for crossing twice. Currie was dragged into touch and lost the ball straight from a tap penalty. Ormsby came up with a couple.
Last week against saints we had 3 chances in the first half and scored on each attempt. Westerman and Clark just had to catch a ball and we would have been 12 points better off.
I do think there was a couple of spells where if we had better ball security for 3 or 4 sets that Hull would have started to fade. They had a lot of big units and turning them around was starting to cause them trouble but a small error like I have mentioned above let them off the hook.
I remember the challenge cup semi against Leeds at Langtree Park and errors cost us the game. We just couldn't build any pressure and that was similar.
I hope that was just a one off and we learn just to respect possession a bit more for the odd spell because big sides like Hull and catalan will get tired.
Fair play to Hull fc though. They remind me a bit of Bradford from 15 years ago. Massive pack and huge wingers who take a lot of energy to put down. I don't think they were massively creative but will take some stopping if they stay injury free.
A lot of our game plan relies on smaller blokes running at big tired forwards (Clarke, dwyer, ratchford, sandow, Russell) but we never made Hull defend enough to see them start to drop off tackles.'"


Hull's pack isn't particularly big, it's just there is a lot of quality in there. taylor and pritchard are the only big forwards. They do seem to be particularly well conditioned and we've won plenty of games in the last 15-20 minutes of late.

As for smaller blokes running at tired forwards, I'll counter yours with sneyd, tuimavave, shaul and houghton.

2 well matched teams on Friday in appalling conditions. Hull's forwards gave them the edge and nullified wire's better half backs IMO

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Quote: Dezzies_right_hook "[list[/listRidiculous!!

Sandow what fit hasvbeen great kicking!!


We didnt get to the end of enough sets!!'"


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On reflection, if our skills were better on Friday night ,we would have won playing the Warrington way , whether playing the Warrington will win us anything other than friends .is another question

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