Defined was probably the wrong word but think you understand my point. It's too early to get excited. The tough schedule we have over April will tell us how good this squad is. I'm not saying we'll know whether we are going to win it, just know if we are good enough to make a more realistic challenge than the last couple of years.

Probably, but we're not allowed to mention anything pre GF 2014, after the ben flower incident, it was bestowed by your lot on your board that it was history and we're not supposed to mention it and we need to move on, so basically its only two years.

Similarly, you must be happy at the fact McIlorum is injured and not going to get banned for being a house, silver linings and all that.

Did i mention Wigan ,Rouges ? I think not !

Not sure that any team will really fire this year. You're in with a shout, we (Wigan) are probably rightly the favourites but we aren't great, this year's side would get hammered by the 2010 Wigan side. Standards in SL are low at the moment and the title is up for grabs, with Wolves in the mix IMO.

Ay up, your not at all an arrogant wigan fan are you ha ha ha