I was told of more or less the same names yesterday (but Rhys was staying).

O'Brien and Ormsby out on loan.

Clark to Leeds for Cuthertson plus cash with Farrah coming in to replace him!

Akuma Tai almost a done deal.

Finally,Grix having to retire - I really hope not as he's one of the most under rated (if that's the right expression) players we have had over the years since I've been watching.

Don't know how true any of that may or may not be.

Preferably over the head.

It was just a thought as we need a and in truth he is the only one available, we are not going to get any one from the top teams, it's just a thought but we may not be a top team and so possibly need to build, beggars can't be choosers and all that, I'm just trying to be realistic.

Welham is no world beater but he has decent pace, makes breaks, puts players away and is quite strong, so being realistic and the way we have played this season we don't want any of that so will stick with what we have.

Anyone have any idea how Wheeler is coming along?

Lee Smith... Kris Welham??

im almost lost for words.

You may well be and I understand your reasons why but lets say we signed Welham for this season would we have got more from him than Bridge, Evans or wheeler? I think so by a mile, he's not that bad really Okay not a Sarginson, Gelling, Dawson or Jones alright that's a bit tongue in cheek, he wouldn't be my first choice but we have to get what's available if and it's a big if they are an improvement.

At present there are a lot that would improve our backline but not all are available.

Danny Brough was in the South Stand today.....he seemed to be enjoying Warrington's victory.