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| Whatever happened to lord tony smith? paraded before the golden gates in his #hardwired slippers with challenge cup in hand (thats what she said).
From hero to villain in one season, good book title that.
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| Quote: Boss Hog "Gary Hetherington is the CEO for Leeds Rhinos, which is the business model I specified in my post. He has been superb for Leeds as an administrator AND has managed a succession of Leeds` coaches, (Including Tony Smith), on a short leash. He has been the lynch pin (With the coaches involvement), for their recruitment, retention or release of players.
Tony Smith at Warrington has had a free hand, with virtually, no intervention by the club`s hierarchy. His succession planning, has been less than successful. Some of his recruitment has been p!$$ poor (Eg Asotasi.....Should have been paid off after his 1st season with us, with a "convenient" career ending injury; Gary Wheeler .....As you are a Saints fan, I don`t see any need for further explanation; NO halfback signing to replace Lee Briers for virtually 2 seasons etc. )
Which do you you think has been the more successful regime, Warrington`s under Smith, or Leeds` with their CEO calling the shots via the coaching staff?
Warrington needed a CEO to take charge of the club, & hopefully Draper will show the necessary leadership.'"
What evidence do you have that Hetherington is the driving force behind player recruitment at Leeds? You want Draper, a man who since 1992 has worked within rugby league for 6 months (and on the business side), responsible for assessing what the team needs and what players are suitable, rather than a man who has been coaching, creating game plans and assessing players his whole career?
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| Quote: Boss Hog "Gary Hetherington is the CEO for Leeds Rhinos, which is the business model I specified in my post. He has been superb for Leeds as an administrator AND has managed a succession of Leeds` coaches, (Including Tony Smith), on a short leash. He has been the lynch pin (With the coaches involvement), for their recruitment, retention or release of players.
Tony Smith at Warrington has had a free hand, with virtually, no intervention by the club`s hierarchy. His succession planning, has been less than successful. Some of his recruitment has been p!$$ poor (Eg Asotasi.....Should have been paid off after his 1st season with us, with a "convenient" career ending injury; Gary Wheeler .....As you are a Saints fan, I don`t see any need for further explanation; NO halfback signing to replace Lee Briers for virtually 2 seasons etc. )
Which do you you think has been the more successful regime, Warrington`s under Smith, or Leeds` with their CEO calling the shots via the coaching staff?
Warrington needed a CEO to take charge of the club, & hopefully Draper will show the necessary leadership.'"
Gary Hetherington is also an ex-player and coach. Roger Draper is neither ( ok, a bit of amateur-level as a player ) and neither was Andy Gatcliffe. They can hardly be expected to come up with authoratitive views on player ability that would be of value to Tony Smith and/or Simon Moran.
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"Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]: |
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "Gary Hetherington is also an ex-player and coach. Roger Draper is neither ( ok, a bit of amateur-level as a player ) and neither was Andy Gatcliffe. They can hardly be expected to come up with authoratitive views on player ability that would be of value to Tony Smith and/or Simon Moran.'"
Why would they need to, isn't that our job!
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| Hetherington definitely does the signing at Leeds, it's effectively a football manager role over and above the CEO one. But that can't really work anywhere else that doesn't have a very astute judge of RL players as the boss. Hetherington built Sheffield Eagles, on and off field, from scratch and has coached at the very top level, including as part of a GB coaching team in an Ashes series. You can't expect to get that same skill set in many club bosses. Would Tony Smith would work well with a conventional football manager?
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| So When are we having the Tony Smith sit in?
after Hull beat us on sep 6th?
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