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Quote: ricominciare "Smith I believe has said the criticism of Agar is unwarranted hinting all is well, no sign of him around last night though.

As for loyalty we are all behind the club just commenting on our observations, the players self criticise after they feel they have had a below performance Mick Monas would sulk for a week after a defeat, is it that Smith is too loyal? possibly, as others have stated we feel the half back position has not been sorted, yet to Smith he had Myler, O'Brien, Ratchford with Bridge in the mix so to him where's the problem, that I think is the problem not facing up to the fact for whatever reason they are collectively not doing the business.'"


I think that Smith was unable to attract the big HB he may have wanted for the season after Briers and he backed his young players to step up (good that a coach backs his youngsters). However this does not seem to have worked for whatever reason and so Smith has, in hindsight, made a mistake. I don't think him airing this in the press would be productive. I would rather like to think they are trying to resolve out of the glare of the media and forums.

Imagine him trotting out the lines "I had hoped GOB, Patton or Myler would have stepped up but they have been found wanting so I am looking to get rid and replace them". No that's not the way.

He's made some mistakes and I'm sure he will learn from them.

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Plenty of coaches in RL have seen success.... plenty of those coaches have then seen those sides fall away after a few years at the top.....but how many have turned around a bad few years to see past glories brought back to a club? i cant think of any

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Simon Moran will show loyalty to Tony Smith and rightly so, yet I feel the length of Smiths tenure is in his own hands he has a team not performing as well as it should, he will have to correct that pronto for now, next season will depend on who he brings in and more importantly who he lets leave, he has to decide who's best days have gone and who doesn't fit into his plans.

Simon Moran will back him with a Marquee signing (massive disappointment if not) Tony's future will be down to Tony.

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Hes earned the right to try and turn it around next season...if next season there are no improvements then it's time to go...that's if we don't get relegated mind.

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I'm happy to give him another season to try and sort this mess out... I'm not sure he will get it if things carry on the way they are though.

At the end of the day we have seen 5 different coaches win the grand final during his reign at Warrington... For a few seasons we had the best squad of players in the league and didn't win it.

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Quote: morleys_deckchair "I'm happy to give him another season to try and sort this mess out... I'm not sure he will get it if things carry on the way they are though.

At the end of the day we have seen 5 different coaches win the grand final during his reign at Warrington... For a few seasons we had the best squad of players in the league and didn't win it.'"

This is a big point.

Yes, we had a period of success. Winning three Challenge Cups in four years is an amazing feat but in reality we did underachieve in the period of 2010-2013 as we didn't win the Grand Final or go and compete in the World Club Challenge in any of those years...and as brutal as this is, we should have done.

Having a team as good as we did doesn't come round very often, we did some amazing things but wasted the chance to make a historic era in the game. We hung back as a defensive line and allowed Burrow to get a run on us and get Hall in for a try to allow Leeds back in the game when we were in total control for about an hour in 2011, we looked overly nervous and played within ourselves in 2012 and then blew a big lead against Wigan in 2013.

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