I think another big issue is a lack of leadership. Joel does not come across as a genuine leader, and being stuck out on the wing makes it even more difficult. A few times last week I noticed players looking around waiting for someone to decide what to do, especially when attacking their line. The only player directing plays was Micky Higham, the rest of the time we were clueless in how to break down their defense. Maybe we should go back to throwing the ball around, at least we could score.

The problem is we haven't got our likely to get a decent 6 or 7 this season, so the same deficiencies will be there.

It will be a constant struggle to compete in my opinion

So think we're going to be beaten 4th and 8th

i`ll take 3 wins from that lot in a heartbeat

We really do have some miserable regulars on his forum and I am pleased to see the heading and a few different views. I think we ought to look back to the comments just after the Leeds game. Everything was looking so rosy ... and then two defeats and we are destined to the division below. Apart from St Helens & Leeds ... I reckon the season has been a bit of shock for all clubs. You cannot win every week.

I do have perspective, what I find frustrating about it is that I believe we are for the want of a good kicking half-back so near to being a super-strong team. I'm not all doom and gloom about the players we have, just find it maddening that we have several players apparently in the half-back position, whose talents point to them playing somewhere other than half-back IMO, and with a Dureau, a Blake Green, even a Danny Brough, we would be a complete team that I would back to beat anyone.

Hull KR are a bit of a surprise. They have brought in two new very creative half backs ... and they are a real handful on attack. Could there be another nugget tucked away somewhere who could really add to our attack. HKR must be dead chuffed what they've unearthed.

For me the issues are clear (as they are to a lot on here) pointless, hopeless, clueless, skill less half backs. Ok that's a bit harsh, but it is reality as described by many on here. The coaching staff and players are the ones charged with turning that around. Against Leeds they did and we looked every bit a top two side. Since then we haven't kicked on (excuse the pun), we haven't played at the same level, all we have done is regress. It hurts all of us to hear that we are only a decent half back away from brilliance, what hurts more is to hear the very people charged with sorting that out saying the same. The club have got this wrong, I would hazard a guess that there are half backs in the Championship that could do better than what we are trying to do,which is to turn none half backs into Andy Greg and Shaun Edwards. Personally I find it incredible that a top class coach and a top club is struggling in this way and for this to be the second season is mind boggling.

Identifying a half-back is one thing. Signing them is a whole different proposition.

Four points over Easter will change everything again! We need a big effort Thursday and hopefully Leeds will soften Cas up on Friday, ready for Monday.

Brough bossed the game last Friday and it was disappointing to see as player for player, we are a better side than Fartown, but it just shows how a top half back is key!

Our half backs are still quite young (except Bridge who I do not think is fully fit yet) so they will learn and mature each game. It's a big season for Gareth O'Brien but as a Warrington lad, I would love to see him go on and be our 7 for years to come. I was as disappointed as anyone Friday but sometimes, upon reflection, which is a great thing afterwards, patience is needed and it is a long season.

I've got no doubt we will be in the mix come play-off time and to be honest, looking at Saints and Wigan, there isn't much difference between the top teams.

There were still some noticeable major issues in the game against Leeds, which I can't see being solved this year. Any team will have a few big wins- look at Wakefield last year beating us, Leeds and Wigan. As a club we had moved on from beating Leeds being a big occasion, if we want to be the 'big club' we claim we are them there is a hell of a lot of work to do.

When I watched our tries from the Huddersfield game I was surprised by positive the contribution of Bridge. The forum comments seemed to imply that he wasn't on the pitch. He was definitely there and made at the least two important passes.