Me too.
The OP did not include AE in the pack for 2015 - rightly so.
Not good enough for us sorry - a product of the salary cap.

Saints halfbacks are both class this year and if they keep Walsh fit then they will definitely be up there, I just think their pack isn't as good as ours or Wigans.

Does anybody expect Leeds to challenge at all?

I wouldn't swap a fit Wheeler for Burns.
imo they have gone backwards in hb.
I guess we will soon find out.

Never saw enough of either to make an informed comment, but, Burns had a field day against us last year at the HJ so on that evidence not a bad signing IMO.

Regarding our pack, we have decent strength in depth and despite one or two on here having doubts I think England will do more than a decent job for us. He has the physicality just thought he was a bit naïve when he first signed, but, seemed willing to give it a go. I'm not sure he's first 17 if everyone is available, but, if called upon don't think he'll let us down.

Interesting, I thought it was seemingly accepted is was Saints pack that got them over the finish line last year (it certainly wasn't Flanagan at halfback!) and our pack shouldn't be any weaker this year (admittedly less depth) so is surely at least on par?

Leeds will be a challenge in one off matches, but I thinkntheyll struggle to keep the intensity up over the course of the season.

Our pack was on top of yours in our last two matches against you and we've strengthened it further this year, so I'd say you're still slightly behind our pack but your backs edge ours.