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Quote: ninearches "So are we on the next plane home or do we still have a chance to be totally humiliated in a 3rd/4th place play off?. '"


That's the spirit.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "At his disposal, he has the best generation of England players I can ever recall. Not only talented, but battle hardened through experience in the NRL and in our domestic game.

And he failed to get the best out of them, and to utilise the whole [isquad and bench[/i not just the starting 13.

He's failed, by every single definition of the word, and not for the first time.'"


The jury's out for me as far as joining in the McNamara bashing is concerned, do I think he's the best coach? No. Do I think he's the best available? I'm not sure, after all who is available and up for the job? Despite most of our fans hailing TS as a top drawer coach what, was is international record like in comparison? My disappointment with McNamara is probably based on his earlier work.

A, bit of club bias might have tempted me into given Ratchford a run somewhere, but, the major problem surely is that it's a 3 game series? The failure of England RU in the autumn series this weekend is not an issue as the teams are building towards a major tournament next year.

I think England's 4N has been ok perhaps the closeness of games may persuade Aus and NZ to fully engage with an international game. More exposure to top class sport as a team can only help and not only the coach whomever that is

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Nice post UR.
Im not the biggest fan of the laptop n radio thinking coach.
okay have him on board but sometimes that rolled up shirt sleeve motivation coach approach has more effect on performance from heart than brain.

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Whitehead played yesterday.
I would have had Ratchford on the bench to allow Clark a rest, and move Smith to #9 for that period.

I'm not a Steve McNamara fan but think he's done reasonably well with such a young / inexperienced squad. If you want to look at abject failure go back to the 2008 World Cup. I was over there for the whole tour and it was the most embarrassing England / GB performance I have witnessed.

Anyone who was in the same hotel in Townsville as the players will tell you how bad the chemistry was between them.'"


Really? I haven't actually watched the game yet I've recorded it.. I heard it was an unchanged team..
I have to disagree I don't think he's done well at all... There is a post on the VT that McNamarra has had 20 games 8 of which are against NZ or Aus with only one win... We've also lost to Italy and a thrown together team of Aussies and Kiwis (The Exiles) during his tenure..

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We have improved immensely since 2008 but that might be more down to clubs' academies or just chance that a decent crop have come through at once. I don't actually rate MacNamara that highly; he picked the wrong half backs last year for the WC and Bret Ferres at dummy half yesterday?and the inclusion of JTomkins after half a season of fairly average rugby league?

We did play some attractive rugby in this tournament but we didn't make the most of too many good situations and we were poor in the second half against Aus. But I suppose he's still learning as a coach.

There's no reason we can't build on what we've done in this tournament though as our players progress and get older/wiser/better. Maybe a 2016 Four Nations win?!

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More chance of the Pope getting married than England winning under McNamara.

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