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Quote: Saddened! "Saints fans aren't throwing knives at anyone. Wheeler had many years in the first team and never made himself available for enough games to ever establish himself in the team. He finished this season a good couple of stone overweight. A lot of Saints fans have said it's a shame, he's clearly talented, but no one could justify giving him another deal. We are well aware of the possibility of him joining Wire, playing a good stretch of games and starting to fulfill his potential. It could well come back to bite us, but had we given him another deal questions would have had to be asked.

Wheeler was highly rated as a kid, many rated him higher than Kyle Eastmond. Whilst Kyle came through and established himself and got a big money move to Union, Wheeler has never progressed beyond being a young squad member. In the years I've watched him I can remember 40 minutes at Wigan where he looked superb, one amazing pass one time and one or two jinking runs of note. And that's in about 7 years. I honestly don't know much about him, does he have a kicking game? How fast is he in open space? Can he organise the team when playing in the halves? And when you can't answer questions like that about a player who is 25 and has been with the club all his life, it shows how little he's shown us.

I don't think there is anything in the Cunningham allegation you've made either. Everyone at Saints seems to be of the opinion that he's talented, but that he's had all his chances now. There are undertones that people don't think he is committed enough to the profession and a lot of question marks over his social circle and family. I don't know much about that, but it did always annoy me when he'd play 20 minutes after 3 months out, get injured, then post pictures of himself on the couch with a beer and a big bar of Galaxy on Twitter.

I'd wager a lot that Smith has Ratchford at 6 and O'Brien at 7 and Wheeler is a roll of the dice with the remaining salary cap that he's not relying on a return from.'"


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Quote: TheScientist "Interesting how a player gets slated for being injured, I assume it's frustration on the fans part rather than "blaming" the player.
Also interesting to compare our attitude to Grix and his injuries (summarised as "poor bloke, gutted for him"icon_wink.gif and the saints forum view of Wheeler (summarised as stealing a living should have got rid earlier).'"

We have had years and years of Wheeler being injured. He was being injured when Potter was coach (he left in 2010). We have been unable to rely on him either at six or at centre. I don't think he's played three consecutive games in his entire first grade career, and he's now 26. While I've never joined in the 'stealing a living' brigade, I have been just as frustrated as everyone else.

I will be interested to see whether Wheels is a regular in your first team next season. If he is then that would lend weight to some Saints' fans suspicions that our conditioning team is not the best (although given our injury crises of the last few years, there is probably already enough to suggest there is a problem there regardless of Wheeler).

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Why do people say "welcome gary"? I'm pretty sure he doesn't roam these boards, it's on par with people saying happy birthday to their kids on facebook. Pointless.

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Quote: Tom Brady "Why do people say "welcome gary"? I'm pretty sure he doesn't roam these boards, it's on par with people saying happy birthday to their kids on facebook. Pointless.'"


Players do come on here. If you were a young lad who had become a minor-league celebrity you'd likely want to check out what people had been saying about you.

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Quote: Tom Brady "Why do people say "welcome gary"? I'm pretty sure he doesn't roam these boards, it's on par with people saying happy birthday to their kids on facebook. Pointless.'"


Yeah because Rugby League players do nothing but play & train, and in the off season are switched off and put into storage.

They're ordinary people, I'd imagine quite a few players "roam" these boards.

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