Sorry didn't see this old thread.

Hock for 2015?

Our pack would definitely not be lacking mongrel with Simms, Westwood and Hock.

Throw in the likes of asotasi, grix, England, hill, Harrison, laithwaite, currie and Evans and that's got the makings of a great pack.

Pretty sure Hock has a club for next year (and for a few years after that). Pretty sure it isn't Wire. I'm still unsure if that is a good thing.

Just as an aside noticed yesterday some of our players asking Hock to come out with them on their 'Mad Monday' end of season blowout.

Anything that keeps Hock away from Warrington would be a good thing.

Who better to invite out on a Mad Monday, than a madman ?

Seriously though, Hock is well past his prime and is in old man territory. Add to that his unpredictability and gifting of penalties, and he doesn't really look to be a worthwhile punt. The only thing I have seen him do this season is take out the linesman, yes I know we shouldn't condone that sort of thing, but it was very funny.

Past his prime?
Hock has got 3 or 4 years on Westwood and he's got a another deal!

He also doesn't have as many miles on the clock due to his numerous stints out if the game.

Hock has undoubtably lost some physical ability, but he is still one of the finest backrowers I've seen in many a year with the loss in attribute.
Unfortunately unlike other players, he's been unable to develop his mental attribute to offset his physical decline.

I'd have him on a basic one year rolling contract with win and conduct conditions for bonus in place.

It's a NO from me, apart from sending out the wrong message IMO, the jury has always been out as far as I'm concerned on the pro's and con's of Hock in your team even when he was in his prime and he's not getting any better

Smith IS the man for nurturing the best out of, let's say, ill-disciplined players. If Smith mentors him and Hock decides he wants to end his career on a high, winning things (hopefully) and utilising the obvious talents he has then that's got to be a good thing for him and us. I'm not his biggest fan, he's thick as mince, but i'd love a fully focussed Hock and all his grunt and talent in our pack. With Monas leaving i do worry about our lack of on-field brains next season though.

i've hated the man with a passion since he made his debut, however if we've got money spare, i'd throw him a modest 12 month contract on the proviso that he's a squad player, and its up to him to knuckle down and prove himself.