Think Waterhouse is the victim of some pretty harsh stereotypes and lazy viewing. He isn't prolifically quick = he doesn't take the ball up hard, etc.

I think he's been consistently good since he's been here. He's always brought it, he's always offloaded well, he's always ran good lines and he's always been a handful for opposing defences, especially if he isolated an opposing player 1v1. I'm more of a fan of 2nd rows that play with pace, like Anthony Watmough and Lee Gilmour in his day, but I could appreciate 'House's qualities and felt he offered us something very different from the back row. He made the odd error but christ, name me a forward of ours that doesn't make daft mistakes? We've said it about near enough all of them over the past five years or so.

Waterhouse - not sure what I think overall, I do feel some disappointment given his background as a Kangaroo international. When he was in good form he was a very good player, up with the best back rowers I've ever seen at Wire. He seemed to have a few too many spells where his form wasn't great. I know a lot of players have ups and downs but I felt like he was average more times than I would have expected. Not a disastrous signing by any means.

Riley - sad to see him go. I have liked Riley for a long time and he's one of the few players of real quality to come out of our Academy. People are quick to diss Riley and hype up the next young big thing but these young big things never seem to go on to score 100 odd tries and win multiple trophies like he did. I was wrong about Riley early on. I saw him as the next Gaskell, someone that would be praised for his attitude but limited as an attacking threat. Then in 2008 he really broke through, he overtook and displaced the erratic Penny and scored bags of tries. I think Riley was only ever grudgingly accepted by our fans because they would have preferred Penny because he was a bit quicker - Riley's try scoring record was better than Penny's but people seemed willing to forgive Penny's flaky moments whereas Riley got criticised all the time.

But well done to him he has had a good career with us and he is one of my favourite all time Warrington players and a symbol of our Academy actually bearing fruit. Will be sad to see him missing permanently from the teamsheet.

Will always have a soft spot for Waterhouse after his playoff try at Langtree in 2012 - when he barged over with saints players on his back, that killed the 'hoodoo' for me well and truly. Kudos, sir!

In the play off game at LP, his 2 tries took us to our 1st ever Grand Final, when he scored the 1st we were marginally up at 18 -14 & Saints were still in the game, he scored the next 2 which took us to 30-14 and at Old Trafford.

I think Trent was great for us, sure he had a few off games but nothing more than that. Thanks for all you did for us in the P & B Trent and my best wishes for the future.

We've come a long way if we're criticising a quality pro like waterhouse when a few years back clowns like gillies were being chairlifted off the field! Give me Trent's contribution over the vastly overrated (during his time here) Danny farrar any day. These people on 'Trent watch' should have done the same with farrar!

I wonder if some of you have a clue what's actually happening on the pitch, Waterhouse is pure class, end of.

Trent's been great for us over the years but you can't deny he's been a little wobbly this year. He'll be hanging up his boots after ending on a high at the end of this season, same as MMonas.

Well said Laughing. What he does defensively to our left edge is so obvious when he isn't playing. Atkins in particular will miss him next year unless his replacement is as good.

Good luck to Riles never gave less than is all. Just not big enough or quick enough to be top class sadly.

I think that, on the whole, Waterhouse has been a goods signing and I cannot understand the vitriol that is hurled at him on this board. I only hope Simms gives us the same service.
I agree that Riley, to some extent, has suffered from having Atkins as his centre. He stands accused of overrunning the play and getting in front of the centre but that could also be a function of the centre delaying the pass too long. Atkins is a great athlete but he will never be world class because of his lack of distribution skills. Riley is accused of poor defence but the defence of our new star full back is a bit flakey IMO yet TS cannot wait to heap praise on him. TS has always seemed to have a downer on Riley to me. He obviously has seen something that I haven't but he is the coach and his judgement has been good up to now. Why he has persevered with Ormsby though I do not understand.

The difference is the expectation level. Danny Farrar was a seasoned pro with knee problems who was about as good as we could sign when we were down near the bottom of the league, and was a good player in that team. Waterhouse was one of the NRL's leading forwards and a full Australia international.

I think there is a great problem with expectations when international / SoO players are signed .. . they may be excellent when seen in these games but i doubt they play that way week in week out, & don't forget these players are coming to us at the end of their careers .

That said ,as far as i am concerned ,Trent has been a very good signing ,not spectacular but steadily consistent . Riley , i do feel sorry for, but his try scoring record speaks for itself .