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Quote: WireFanatic III "Couldn't give a shiny one about the Royal Family. Don't need any of them there to make the event more official. Quite happy with someone in the public eye who enjoys RL (Wiggins), a past player/coach, or even one of our Armed Forces heroes presenting the trophy.

You can stick your MP's and the Royal Family up yer jacksie.'"

What about the many royals who have served in the forces?

I know it's trendy and risqué to come out with all this Russell Brand nonsense, particularly amongst self loathing middle class types but it just makes you sound like a bit of a plonker. We have arguably the greatest and oldest democracy in the world which we are lucky to be able to take for granted.

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The suggestion that a fair proportion of the armed services are "nutjobs" (I'm sure mental health charities across the country will thank you for that compassionate view) is rather abhorrent.

I know some Accountants who are nutjobs.
I know some Refrigeration Engineers who are nutjobs.

Obviously these people aren't in a vocation where they have access to firearms, but it decent people go to war and come back as "nutjobs" then society has to take some blame for failing to rehabilitate them, or ease them back into civilian life.

I assume the inference is aimed at service men in recent conflicts, given some reporting in the media and some isolated events? Would you consider servicemen who took part in the D-Day landings, for example, to be nutjobs?

Either way, I'm not a Russell Brand fan, or a right-on republican I just feel the monarchy is an outdated institution and it is vaguely obsceene in the era of food banks.

Still, as someone has posted, we have a wonderful democracy .............. thanks to the sacrifices of the armed forces and their ranks of nutjobs.

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "The suggestion that a fair proportion of the armed services are "nutjobs" (I'm sure mental health charities across the country will thank you for that compassionate view) is rather abhorrent.

I know some Accountants who are nutjobs.
I know some Refrigeration Engineers who are nutjobs.

Obviously these people aren't in a vocation where they have access to firearms, but it decent people go to war and come back as "nutjobs" then society has to take some blame for failing to rehabilitate them, or ease them back into civilian life.

I assume the inference is aimed at service men in recent conflicts, given some reporting in the media and some isolated events? Would you consider servicemen who took part in the D-Day landings, for example, to be nutjobs?

Either way, I'm not a Russell Brand fan, or a right-on republican I just feel the monarchy is an outdated institution and it is vaguely obsceene in the era of food banks.

Still, as someone has posted, we have a wonderful democracy .............. thanks to the sacrifices of the armed forces and their ranks of nutjobs.'"

Beat me to it. Were the shell shocked volunteers and conscripts of the Somme "nutjobs"?

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Quote: morrisseyisawire "The suggestion that a fair proportion of the armed services are "nutjobs" (I'm sure mental health charities across the country will thank you for that compassionate view) is rather abhorrent.

I know some Accountants who are nutjobs.
I know some Refrigeration Engineers who are nutjobs.

Obviously these people aren't in a vocation where they have access to firearms, but it decent people go to war and come back as "nutjobs" then society has to take some blame for failing to rehabilitate them, or ease them back into civilian life.

I assume the inference is aimed at service men in recent conflicts, given some reporting in the media and some isolated events? Would you consider servicemen who took part in the D-Day landings, for example, to be nutjobs?

Either way, I'm not a Russell Brand fan, or a right-on republican I just feel the monarchy is an outdated institution and it is vaguely obsceene in the era of food banks.

Still, as someone has posted, we have a wonderful democracy .............. thanks to the sacrifices of the armed forces and their ranks of nutjobs.'"


I have no problem with the Armed Forces at all - However, I have a massive gripe with members of these forces automatically being given the title of 'hero' at the whim of right-wing media, like The Sun.

Nobody is forced to join up - It is a job. It is not heroic to go invading foreign lands at the behest of the US Government.

As I said in my first post, there are other professions who deserve the tag 'hero' far more than those in the Armed Forces.

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