i find it amusing how you wire fans brand us(hull fc) a poor team when Agar took over us, cast your minds back we had won a challenge cup 2005 and got to the grand final(2006) then Agar took over and we went backwards, back to w@nky me thinks. good luck

The difference was Paul Cooke he carried Hull.

Hull are a good lesson for us. If you move out good players / coaches and bring in ones that aren't at the same level then its not hard to predict what happens.

Hull were on the verge of something big and they started bringing in players like Calderwood, Thorman, Todd Byrne while guys were leaving like Blacklock, Swain, Brough, Carvell.

I bet there were Hull fans saying Kear or Peter Sharp had taken Hull as far as they can, but they regretted it afterwards, they didn't implode like Bradford but they went on a steady decline from trophy competitors to also rans (Carvell timed his move to us perfectly).

Are we moving in teh same direction or are we improving on our personnel to take us to the next level?

If we sign Agar as coach then we will drop off, I'm hearing a lot now and it's starting to worry we slightly.

Agar in charge is a huge backward step, would he be welcome...not by me.

Agar will do okay if the money is available. So would John Kear and I'd wind some up here but Paul Cullen now he's older and wiser could still do a job. He was perhaps a bit too close to some guys back then. I'm sure his age would draw a line this time.
I once said to him if Chris Bridge had of stayed fit he would still be at Warrington. A statement from me he said was interesting and he couldn't argue against.

Not tosh at all. You name seven players out of squad of what, twenty-five? Smith and Lauititi both well past their best even a few years ago, Collis solid but unspectacular, and the other five good but far from great. In any case, Agar did get you into the play-offs, right? I guess that he had nothing to do with that? I carry no torch for him but if you can't see that he was not managing a top-class squad then you're the one guilty of talking rubbish.

You're still talking rubbish. You said he didn't have any quality players to work with and that's simply not true. There were enough good players to make a top 8 side AS YOU STATE and a season on he's added more quality to the side. He should at the very minimum have maintained 8th but for me should have moved us to a comfortable 6th. Just accept the facts.

It's purely subjective as to whom you consider past their best but seeing as I doubt you watch trinity more than 3 or 4 times a year I suspect my subjective opinion is more factual than yours. Lauititi has been a great player for us over the past two seasons with no discernible loss of impact from his Leeds days, easily won us half a dozen games in that time. Tim Smith is an enigma, hugely talented and far from past it yet seemingly only able to play well for us - it happens.

I like Warrington but some fans like you are starting to show that arrogance that comes with some success. I like the way you've pushed into the big 4, it was needed. However if it is true that you're signing Agar it's a huge error on your part IMHO and I'd say that if every member of your squad were current Australian internationals. Agar is a nice enough bloke and reasonably knowledgeable but the absolute FACT remains he's bee an abject failure as a Coach - even at Hull where he had bucket loads of cash.

You have been warned.

When a coach comes in that the fans are against from the start its very difficult for him, see McLeish at Villa, Souness at Newcastle etc. Any defeat will bring an avalanche of criticism and booing of the team and it creates an unhappy environment so if we do bring Agar in the board need to be aware of the difficulties it will create.

Agar's best chance of buying himself time would be to do some popular moves: release Asotasi and give GO'B a guaranteed starting role as halfback and Penny a guaranteed wing spot for a full season to at least give them a chance.

Maybe the club has leaked this info out early the gauge the fans opinion on such an appointment.

if that is the case, may i say that MY OTHER POSTS WERE JUST A JOKE.. i don't want this guy anywhere near our Rugby Club.

If Smith does leave, and we need a stopgap coach for a few years, I would much prefer the club gave an ex player a shot. Briers or Hodgson.... if we are going to look at a coach with SL experience, then at least get one with some credibility in the game, like Noble.

My comments were the exact opposite of 'arrogant'. I'm suggesting that we are not so far ahead of Wakey that we should discount this rumour out of hand. Even so, you clearly missed the bits in my two posts when I made it clear that I do not support Agar as a coach at Wire? It's hardly surprising that I don't see the Wildcats as often as do you, but as a Wire fan I've seen plenty of mediocre sides take to the field and the world's greatest coach would not have got us into the top eight. The Wire team of the early 2000s, before we moved to the HJ, was better than any side fielded at Wakey under Agar. Did I blame the coach exclusively for our shortcomings? Certainly not, and if you'd open your eyes, instead of seemingly blaming everything wrong at Wakefield on one man, you'd be capable of understanding that.

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