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Myler has been the better half back for the past two games. He was also in fantastic form last season till he got injured. You can't blame the current attacking structures solely at the feet of the half backs. They need options, which they aren't getting.

I've seen nothing from O'Brien yet to convince me he's going to be a top SL player, I've seen it from Myler. Yes he needs to improve, but with the possible exceptions of Westwood, House & Higham, they all do.

Our first choice 1, 6 & 7 are now fit to play together. They need to be given time.

Would Myler have been given the same stick had he come through our own youth system instead of us forking out £200k for him...?

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Sam Burgess has a celebrity lifestyle over there with a lot of lucrative deals outside of playing. Why is he going to union? Money, pure and simple. Why not let the teams with the cash spend it? If you can't afford to bring in quality, tough. And before people say its just because warrington have got money, i preferred watching us go up against wigans all stars in the 80s even though we couldn't get to that level. It was a challenge, as it was for other clubs, and it made certain players from other clubs(gregory for us, schofield, ward etc) raise their game and become international class. In those days we could actually give australia a game, and heaven forbid, sometimes even beat them. The game is slowly dying anyway, we may as well give the good doctors ideas a chance because we won't be any worse off if they fail.

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Quote: Moe syslak "Sam Burgess has a celebrity lifestyle over there with a lot of lucrative deals outside of playing. Why is he going to union? Money, pure and simple.
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Being celebrity in England is a bigger deal than being a celebrity in aus? - SBW turned his head of the publicity about being "a dual international" and the long term gains of that, above and beyond the capabilities of either 1 code.

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People can spend what they like on developing players. If more was spent on that instead of "marquees" maybe our England team would be stronger. Of course, that's not to say a smattering from aus isn't good for the game, but they aren't the saviour of the sport either.

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And before people say its just because warrington have got money, i preferred watching us go up against wigans all stars in the 80s even though we couldn't get to that level. It was a challenge, as it was for other clubs, and it made certain players from other clubs(gregory for us, schofield, ward etc) raise their game and become international class. In those days we could actually give australia a game, and heaven forbid, sometimes even beat them. The game is slowly dying anyway, we may as well give the good doctors ideas a chance because we won't be any worse off if they fail.'"


Yeah ask Bradford about that.

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As far as I can see Bradford are still in sl and at worst will spend a couple of years outside of it! I'd take that for 3 world club challenges. Moe is right super league is on its arris. I've been a wire fan home and away for thirty years and sl depresses me these days. Before all else the main reason to watch pro sport is to see fellas do stuff us mere mortals can only dream about, as it is super league could have a gimmick of picking 16 and a raffle winner in the crowd joining the squad. Anyone claiming this season is not the worst, standard wise, in the past thirty years is deluded. Something needs to be done

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So why is the standard so poor in rl now ?

Well, all our high quality Oz players have got old and retired. And with all the money in the Oz game, we can not afford to bring in top notch stars to replace them. Will we even have a match against the Exiles this year ? And as those Aussies have disappeared it has gradually shown the threadbare quality of our own game. That is down to under-investment in youth training as far as I am concerned. Remember it is only a season or so ago that 12 SL clubs voted to ditch 2 of the four age classes in order to save money. And how exactly are we now going to afford e.g. Thurston on 1.3 million Aus dollars per year ? Even if the money was found, it would be like one of our better SL players agreeing a move to Hunslet. Don't forget top quality players dream of silverware and public acclamation not just the money. A trip to Broncos in front of a crowd of 1,500 is not going to cut much ice.

We need to wake up and smell the coffee. The new Sky franchise money is a lifeline, it buys the game some time. We will still be able to buy a smattering of reasonable quality Aussies, but we need to spend much more time encouraging growth of the sport in local schools ( Salford have I believe only two), clubs, and academies. The main reason we are going from 14 to 12 SL clubs next years because we don't have enough SL players to go around. Buying in players from abroad is a short term fix that simply underlines our problems. Agreed, everyone is really only interested in short term, quick and easy solutions, but that is not going to help the long term survival of SL.

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Let's be honest, as a business model, we simply cannot compete with the NRL and Rugby Union - We are the Southampton to their Man United or Chelsea - We are there to supply them with added attraction to their competitions.

I agree that we don't produce the same number of quality individuals that we used to, but even when we do, we cannot hope to compete with the Aussie game or the English RU to keep them in our game (Look at Tomkins, Eastmond, the Burgess's, etc).... We have to accept we are now a feeder to these financially superior organisations and unless we find another 10 Koukash's or Simon Moran's, then we are going to have to put up with a diminishing quality within our league.

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