If I was a Wigan fan I'd be happy with that. Pretty much shut out a team (away from home) that will be in the top 6 come the end of the season in awful conditions. Also, they have a young team which is only just starting to reach it's potential. On our side of things, its worrying how we've gone from being devastating in attack 2 seasons ago and to a lesser extent last year to being clueless as to how to break down a team. The kicking on display tonight speaks for itself.

The funny thing is there are a lot of people blaming the loss of key players, me personally I think the problem is we didn't make more changes over a longer period of time. Not going to name names as don't want this to seem like a knee jerk but I've had this opinion about a fair few of our "stars" for a while. I'd be looking at making some tough calls this season if I was TS - the only worry is, is the talent out there to recruit?

Got to give credit to the usuals:: Super Ben who run his blood to water when he was on, Hill was safe as houses and Higham was our best player 1st half.

Lots of frustration on here - and I can easily understand that.
We were well beaten and didn't really look like breaking the Wigan line all night. Wigan were well worth their 10 point margin and to be honest I didn't expect anything else.

I thought Westwood and Waterhouse were immense last night. You couldn't fault either for commitment and desire.
Russell showed promise and Ormsby did OK.
Monas and Higham had reasonable games - Monas particularly injecting some 'attacking' defence.

But I also have to credit Wigan (through gritted teeth) for their defence which snuffed us out completely.
I was also mightily impressed with their attack and in particular their 'blitzkreig' like moves have 4-5 players close together in 2 lines attacking our flank. Most impressive against our right. I've not seen that before, and once they'd broken the line there is no way Joel would catch his opposite number. He's got a lot of attributes but simply isn't fast - come back Spider......

TS has a lot of work to do and it's clear he's not sure of the way to play the halves. For what it's worth I don't think you can easily interchange halves. They're too pivotal.

But look at other 'winning' teams in the past and they've developed through the year. Let's hope....

Building every season? You didn't recruit at all last season. This season you signed Asotasi, Russell and brought Penny back. Time was, Wire would bid for every decent player they could lay their hands on!

Salford were most impressive against our impregnable right hand side last week ....twice .

That was Wigan in disguise too....Dominic Manfredi!!

really tickled me this one.