Certainly not as much as you have, no question, but over the years they have been fantastic servants to Warrington and those types of players aren't easy to replace, whether it's a year too far or not



Haven't seen much of England except what's been on TV - if he's as good as carvell he's a hell of a signing and great for Warrington but you can't say he definitely will be that strong

I've seen a lot of asotasi over the years, and he's had a decent season this year, and the reports I've seen say he credits a lot of that down to Michael Maguire - you just have to look at how he turned Wigan round to see what a fantastic coach he is and how well you can coach him to that level I don't know - also he is only a year younger than carvell so why get rid of one and sign another?



Big if though isn't it



Same can be said of all youngsters breaking in all teams - it doesn't give you a particular advantage over the likes of Wigan saints and Leeds are all bringing through players who have great reps in there academy and fans are excited to see get more first team action - who develops into internationals won't happen over 1 season (at least does very rarely).



Coach saying they're looking to build shocker ... No one involved in any club will ever say we're gonna be rubbish next year



In your opinion, I'm not saying I think you're a lot weaker, but I think you have a lot of players who are gonna looked to be replaced over the next few years and that inevitably causes problems



Agreed - that doesn't make it any easier to replace them though - that' was my point to begin with


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If Koukash sacks Noble next season then its pretty safe to say Simon Moran and Warrington present a better career choice than Koukash and Noble.

But if Noble was available then I would be less worried about Smith moving on elsewhere as we would have a coach of the same calibre available to pick up.

In fact if Smith moves on in the next few seasons to the NRL or whatever, Noble would probably be my top choice, he would no doubt love the chance to coach at a big club again.

There isn't enough depth of talent in the Academy teams to replace these players. Sintellins, Wigan and Leeds still are the clubs producing the volume young players capable of playing at the highest level and they are receiving coaching and support (for instance the St Helens U19s have just gone on an Australian tour) that we can't offer.

Warrington unfortunately will still have to bring in players to bolster the future of the club.

With regard to Smith, I am questioning where would he want to move on to?

Could that be down to John Bastion?
He didn't seem to be in favour of lads from Warrington. I think sts and Wigan have more lads from Warrington than we have?

Correct me if incorrect, heard that from a junior coach.

They don't favour lads from elsewhere but it is simply down to the fact there aren't enough players in Warrington playing at a good enough level. I am certainly not aware of that many players from Warrington being at other clubs Academies, I can only think of two or three. I am sure Warrington would love the Academy to be populated by players from the community clubs but I can't see that happening anytime soon.

Problem being when Warrington do bring players in from other local areas the cream of these players will already be signed.

However, whether we want to accept it or not the Academies at Wigan, Leeds and St Helens are are graded 'A' by the RFL for good reason and ours isn't. Why this is should be open to debate according to the criteria of measurement.