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| Quote: Dropkick Murphy "This is the third year in a row that the winners of it haven't even reached the Grand Final, nevermind won it. Is it the final nail in it's coffin?
Although I was too tense to enjoy it properly, there's no doubt that last night was a very good game of rugby, and although I won't be watching it because I'm at work, I have no doubt that tonight's will be of equal quality. What this year has produced is a big talking point in the ClubCall pick, and the four top teams in the league going head to head at the climax. It will be rounded off with a match played in front of 70,000+ people.
Surely no one can still try and dispute that it really is the big prize? You don't get any no mark clubs sneaking into the semi finals by getting lucky draws against lower league sides then getting 70-0 defeats against the first top team they play as can happen in the Challenge Cup. You don't get the season fizzling out into nothing with one team running away with the title and everyone else having nothing to look forward to other than an end of season tagged on tournament which doesn't have the same meaning because the Champions have already been declared as can happen with a FPTP format and separate Premiership.
This is the real deal, and the Shield is increasingly becoming an irrelevant side story. Other than what it meant in terms of play off position, I didn't care all season if we won it or not. I care big time who wins next Saturday.
NOW THE WIRE'"
Wow. Amazing how opinions change. Just 2 years ago a sizeable majority of wire fans were lauding the LLS and completly disreguarding the trophy that actually makes you champions because 5th place leeds won it which made it a joke and not fair.
I agree with everything you say of course, I just wonder whether those same wire fans from 2 years ago will be deriding warringtons achievment of winning the ''poxy sky cup competition'' next week, which would make them champions for the first time in over half a century, afterall hudds are the real champs right? they finished top.
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| Quote: Thelonius "I would agree with you if all clubs were doing their utmost to win the league, but they're not.'"
Exactly - Tony Smith is so dismissive of the weekly rounds and league table position that, as a supporter, you sometimes question why the hell you should actually bother to go and watch the matches.
He isn't the only one guilty of this, and if we are being honest, at a time when we are pretty desperate for people and companies to pump money into our sport, the whole thing is a bit of a shambles.
A situation where 90% of the games are glorified friendlies/training sessions isn't a good one - The problem with having a play-off system is that it needs ALL the sides in the league to be competitive and, at least at the beginning of the season, to be in the hunt for the ultimate prize of champions.
Realistically, a play off system only works with a draft system, where squads are balanced more fairly, but I'm not sure that such a radical move could ever be brought in over here, though it would certainly be a lot more innovative and it would energise the sport a lot more than the silly and pointless clubcall.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "
A situation where 90% of the games are glorified friendlies/training sessions isn't a good one - The problem with having a play-off system is that it needs ALL the sides in the league to be competitive and, at least at the beginning of the season, to be in the hunt for the ultimate prize of champions.
Realistically, a play off system only works with a draft system, where squads are balanced more fairly, but I'm not sure that such a radical move could ever be brought in over here, though it would certainly be a lot more innovative and it would energise the sport a lot more than the silly and pointless clubcall.'"
So are you saying that the problem in our game is that it isn't competitive? Which team is running away from the rest so dominant that nobody can compete with them?
The last two years we've had 5th place winning and this year we may get 4th place winning. At the moment the reason the playoffs have come under scrutiny and the reason they appear to be a 'lottery' is because any one of us, Wigan, Hudds, Leeds could win, there isn't a clear answer on who is the best of those four teams. Back ten years ago when Bradford were at their peak you pretty much knew they were going to make the Grand Final however the playoffs were structured, it wasn't as much of a lottery then.
I agree with you on a draft system, US sports are fantastic because of the draft system but there's a key difference between their sport and ours which means we can't replicate it here: over there the professional clubs don't run youth teams, junior development is done by outside bodies, mainly universities/colleges. So new players can enter the draft and be picked, without a professional club having a claim on them. That wouldn't work here because how would we feel if one of our best Academy players, who had been developed at our expense, got picked in a draft by Salford just because Salford finished low in the league. We would probably stop developing young players.
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| Loose at wembley,gutted. Loose this farce of a competition, bit meh to be honest.
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| What is needed to accommodate the sky cup & also bring a bit more bite back to the league is to reduce the play offs to four teams which will eliminate teams 5 to 8 who just do enough to get to a play off place. If SKY are short of games then they could have a competition between the remaining clubs for a " best of the rest trophy" ,so giving even the lower clubs something to play for.
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53838_1362327793.jpg And so you aim towards the sky,
And you'll rise high today,
Fly away, Far away,
Far from pain....:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53838.jpg |
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| Quote: sally cinnamon "So are you saying that the problem in our game is that it isn't competitive? Which team is running away from the rest so dominant that nobody can compete with them?
The last two years we've had 5th place winning and this year we may get 4th place winning. At the moment the reason the playoffs have come under scrutiny and the reason they appear to be a 'lottery' is because any one of us, Wigan, Hudds, Leeds could win, there isn't a clear answer on who is the best of those four teams. Back ten years ago when Bradford were at their peak you pretty much knew they were going to make the Grand Final however the playoffs were structured, it wasn't as much of a lottery then.
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I agree the final 2 weeks of the play offs are more competitive, compared to it just being the final, but I was more pointing out that the league fixtures are a waste of time, because 8 or 9 of the clubs are no-hopers from the moment the season begins.
Ideally, to make a play off system work, we need a dozen Simon Moran's or Marwan Koukash's to take over the clubs and then you could fetch in a draft/auction system where players are shared among similar strength sides.
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