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It's time there was a new name on that trophy, and one side that has not won it will be at OT next weekend. After the Wigan defeat, I thought there would be only one choice Warrington could make, and that would have been the winner of the Hudds v Hull game. Watching Huddersfield perform as they did nearly changed my mind, but I still think it is the right call, but the Giants confidence must be sky high after the job they did against Hull. Having said that, after putting 40 points on Leeds, ours isn't exactly rock bottom.

I think Wigan will beat Leeds at the DW, and I think this could have been behind some of the thinking too. Playing Leeds once in the play off series is more than enough, as this is when they are in their element, especially when it comes to games against Warrington.

I am going to a Wigan Wire final, which is what people are said to have been wanting for years. That will be a genuine spectacle under the lights. Now though, Huddersfield need to be put away as they have been on most other occasions. Now is not the time to relinquish our dominance over them, now is when we reiterate it

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Quote: Les Norton "The claim that whoever finishes top are the 'real' champions was never really made before Leeds won the GF in 2011. After that, some Warrington fans were by far the biggest 'claimers' of this - obviously with a number of Wigan fans, who quite frankly moan at everything when they aren't the club in the spotlight - then a large amount of Wigan fans in 2012, when they didn't go on to win he GF after topping the table.

Before 2011 it was a none issue. Teams who genuinely think they have a chance of winning the GF place target a top 4 spot, which gives them a bigger advantage i.e a second chance, before the top 8 playoff system a top 2 finish was the objective.'"


I'd agree with that, though the 'second chance' thing is rot..... Wire and Wigan do not get a second chance, only a weekend off, which in recent times is being proved to be no sort of advantage and more of a hindrance.

Go back to the pre-Super League top 8 play off system, which was a straight knockout and then you will have a competition that gives an advantage to those finishing in the top 2.

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Quote: Les Norton "The claim that whoever finishes top are the 'real' champions was never really made before Leeds won the GF in 2011. After that, some Warrington fans were by far the biggest 'claimers' of this - obviously with a number of Wigan fans, who quite frankly moan at everything when they aren't the club in the spotlight - then a large amount of Wigan fans in 2012, when they didn't go on to win he GF after topping the table.

Before 2011 it was a none issue. Teams who genuinely think they have a chance of winning the GF place target a top 4 spot, which gives them a bigger advantage i.e a second chance, before the top 8 playoff system a top 2 finish was the objective.'"


I am quite plased that you used the word 'claimers' rather than an obvious alternative, but I would still disagree with a concept that theoritically 'allows' a team from the bottom half of a league structure that will have lost more games than they had won in a season to be called Champions.

I like the GF concept but in my opinion it should be an additional series of games with winners of the League called the Champions. The reward could be financial inmuch the same way that the Div 1 play off is called the biggest game in football or entry into an expanded WCC

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Quote: Dropkick Murphy "
The Leeds, Wigan and Saints fans who told us in 2011 that the Shield was meaningless were right. It was a nice trophy, one to tick off the list, and something to put on the club roll of honour, but it earns you no respect if you don't complete the job.'"


We tell Huddersfield fans this but they won't listen either. But i imagine after the harsh lesson this season of failing to make the grand final, the penny will final drop. The LLS is good for the ''new kid on the block'', but once you've got it won and it's out of the way, it's worthless and it's all about the grand final.

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2012 LLS Wigan GF Leeds GF runner up Wire
2011 LLS Wire GF Leeds GF runner up St H
2010 LLS Wigan GF Wigan GF runner up St H
2009 LLS Leeds GF Leeds GF runner up St H

is what has happened since we went to top 8. The obvious conclusion is that on recent experience, we have done the right thing by sending Leeds to Wigan (and we'd have done the same with St Helens). Twice the LLS have won the GF, twice they haven't been there. The common theme is that Leeds do not lose many play off games.

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Quote: The All New Chester Wire "2012 LLS Wigan GF Leeds GF runner up Wire
2011 LLS Wire GF Leeds GF runner up St H
2010 LLS Wigan GF Wigan GF runner up St H
2009 LLS Leeds GF Leeds GF runner up St H

is what has happened since we went to top 8. The obvious conclusion is that on recent experience, we have done the right thing by sending Leeds to Wigan (and we'd have done the same with St Helens). Twice the LLS have won the GF, twice they haven't been there. The common theme is that Leeds do not lose many play off games.'"

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