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I think marshman is right, I believe that if these lads were at any other club, and that includes the pie's and whino's, they would have played far more games this season.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "Whilst most people are awaiting news on contract extensions and departures for the 1st team squad, we have a number of 'older' youth players that are in a similar position. A number of these were signed by Swinton at the start of the year, and I am assuming they will either be re-signed by Wire, or released;


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Contracted to 2014. He had a pre-season operation on his hip which kept him out for the first 12 weeks of the season, but has since regularly appeared for Bradford as interchange prop. He is still only 20. Back next year to get some game time with us and/ or a further SL loan?

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the Warrington Guardian hints at him staying at bradford on loan again.......rlhttps://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/wolves/10599924.IT_S_MY_VIEW__Rovers_prop_looks_set_to_switch/rl

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Quote: cumbrianwolf "I think marshman is right, I believe that if these lads were at any other club, and that includes the pie's and whino's, they would have played far more games this season.'"


Problem is some of our fans want it both ways on youngsters.

They will say we should play these young lads more and rotate the senior players in the league because league games don't matter but on the times where Tony Smith has left out senior players and played youngsters people come on here saying its disrespecting the fans and why should we pay our money if the club can't be bothered fielding a serious team.

I wonder which ones of our senior players should have been ousted to make way for these youngsters, and also if our fans would rate them so highly if they actually played in SL.

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From what I understand;

Wigan and Leeds have different youth structures to us. The Wigan area produces a large number of youngsters, and you will find them scattered around the whole of RL. Have a look at how many wigan players were in the last England Academy side. So Wigan can afford to pick the best from this crop and they will appear in their 1st team. Leeds have a policy that says you can tell if a player is going to make SL by the time he reaches 19. So by definition, their 19 year olds are already showing a level of performance that allows them to be moved into the 1st team. At Wire, TS believes that some players will move straight into the 1st team (Currie), but others develop later, and you need to hang on to these players and give them more time and experience.

So we end up with a number of 20 somethings that require game time at a higher level than U19 / U20. If you look at the list I produced, you will see that from the 12 players, only Saltonstall (19) and Ormsby have not played at Championship or SL level. They are nearly all loaned out to get the required experience. We have used Cas, London, Saints, Salford, Bradford and of course Swinton to achieve that.

As to who has the correct youth policy; Leeds or Wire, I really don't know. But we do need to remember that both Leeds and Wigan have access to far more local talent than we do, so there is a good argument for making sure we fully exploit every promising youngster on our books, before we release them.

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Quote: Winslade's Offload "From what I understand;

Wigan and Leeds have different youth structures to us. The Wigan area produces a large number of youngsters, and you will find them scattered around the whole of RL. Have a look at how many wigan players were in the last England Academy side. So Wigan can afford to pick the best from this crop and they will appear in their 1st team. Leeds have a policy that says you can tell if a player is going to make SL by the time he reaches 19. So by definition, their 19 year olds are already showing a level of performance that allows them to be moved into the 1st team. At Wire, TS believes that some players will move straight into the 1st team (Currie), but others develop later, and you need to hang on to these players and give them more time and experience.

So we end up with a number of 20 somethings that require game time at a higher level than U19 / U20. If you look at the list I produced, you will see that from the 12 players, only Saltonstall (19) and Ormsby have not played at Championship or SL level. They are nearly all loaned out to get the required experience. We have used Cas, London, Saints, Salford, Bradford and of course Swinton to achieve that.

As to who has the correct youth policy; Leeds or Wire, I really don't know. But we do need to remember that both Leeds and Wigan have access to far more local talent than we do, so there is a good argument for making sure we fully exploit every promising youngster on our books, before we release them.'"


Warrington have a similar view to Leeds as they have a small group of academy players known as the 'Wolfpack' who they identify as having the best chance of playing SL. They receive extra training, nutrition etc.

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Quote: WalterWizard "really? Talking about this the other day. Although with the RFL they change their minds as often as their pants. I would guess any changes wouldn't be next year more likely 2015.

I think U16/ U19/ U23s may work well though.

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