I fink widnes without winning a trophy for ... years will have a better impact as its our true rivals

I must admit, I saw the increased "security" in that part of the ground and figured out why. Whilst I can understand you might feel slightly irritated by that, it's to be expected to an extent.

As for people hurling abuse at you, couple of thoughtsdon't [/igo to the game to get drunk and sing songs, you're going to find it more difficult to get people on board with what you're trying to achieve.

- I stand near where you and your pals now congregate. I enjoyed some of the chanting, the one about Koukash buying Swinton was quite good. I'm no prude - I have no issue with the ironic winky winky song and accept that, if you go to a sports ground, there shall be swearing. However you are going to put people off when you sing songs about Coronation Street actors accused of serious crimes because they're based in the locale of the opposition. Appreciate it was one or two only, but it doesn't help.

Good luck with whatever co-ordinated efforts you're putting in place to improve the atmosphere - I'd just caution you against giving it the barry* too much too soon.

*McGuigan - Big 'Un

What is the website you design the flags on please???

When Spelling and grammar is brought into an arguments that's it. I'm out, if something was spelt wrong then there is no need to bring it up. There is no point what so ever as you will have been able to understand what I meant.

Not really, seeing as I fail to understand that post.
Others are right. If you want people to rally to your cause, then don't go upsetting them. By all means sing to your hearts content, but don't go singing offensive songs (apart from TF and the Wire, because it's my all time favourite and every word used to be true), because all that you will do is rub both friend and foe up the wrong way and attract the wrong type of people, which is exactly how the Brigantes thing at Wigan started to go down the pan after a promising beginning.
You should also be aware that you will be bound to have the stewards watching you. That's what they are there for. They don't get paid to watch the match, so don't get upset next time a woman with the face of a bulldog chewing a wasp gets upset at you. Just ignore her and eventually she'll stare at someone else.
Finally, although my point about spelling was meant to wind you up, it is quite appropriate. There's no point in spending a fair bit of money on something when the creator messes it up because he or she can't spell properly.

I dont see the issue with someones grammar in a forum, if at the end of the day the flags will be done correctly. All the flags have been shown on here to show what ideas we have got. Look I didn't mean for this post to cause arguments between the fans, I just wanted to let people know what we are trying to do and get feedback knowing that we all views seriously and we are not going behind peoples' back on it.

The one thing i hate though is people assuming i have had a lot to drink to sing/chant/drum/shout or whatever. It's been mentioned a few times and it gets on my nerves as i drive to every single home game....

And finally for the record, i know drums are a common theme on here with people slating them... but there are actually only 2 songs we use that are started by the drum. Every other songs are all vocal and the drum is then used for timing. And yes people will like to comment about that 'we don't need a drum for timing' but i beg to differ as by the odd times our stadium all sing the drum definately helps.