during our nervy Hull derby, I was distracted and thought WTF are the wire fans doing, well done everyone.

I think that too is the reason. No stupid kiddie girls who only go because the lads they like go.

I think it's also the psychological aspect of wanting to go into another teams back yard and show em up. Or maybe because there's more people in a smaller space? Or maybe because people travel down on coaches together, having a drink, having the banter and taking that giddy atmosphere into the ground.

Either way we'll still be stood in that sport singing and having a good time. Home and Away.

It certainly lifts the players when we're loud.

If we want to see Wire maybe we should all start singing

Fair enough!

Although I would, as a club like to see us 'stabalise' the primrose element as it is an important part of our identity, if not our kit as it's been messed about with over the years. Leeds are 'guilty' of the same sort of thing.

May be it's a cost thing standard yellow might be easier or cheaper to replicate. Everyone else might not be that bothered as long as the overall style of shirt is decent? Wigan playing in red and white Bradford in red orange and black? We should look after the primrose a bit more and i understand that thee are plenty of versions of that depending upon where you look

Sorry about the derail good luck to the folk on the 20

I would also suggest checking whether its possible to put them up before the day of the game (or at least a few hours before kickoff) like they do at the Etihad for City games. Dont think anybody will be allowed to "climb" to put flags up once the public are in.

We're going to meet the stadium manager and take some measurements for some new flags. I think the plan is to either have them up permanently or put them up the day before the match because we will need a ladder to get them up.