I understand why you would compare use to the 'Wigan Ultras' but we're not trying to be a gang or group. We want the fans unified as one. What we don't want is a gang mentalities. If you believe it's doom to failure then can you help us go down a route, which you believe wont fail and will help the overall match day experience. We want people opinions and feedback and we're willing to listen to suggestions, which will help us improve.

I think we will win him over in the end, he must be sick to death of waiting for that cladding.

Maybe because as mentioned before there aren't that may of them, the idea is for them to start attracting people over? If where you were stood was full of people making stupid comments and annoying you then why don't you move over to them and start something positive like they are trying to do?

This is why away games will always be better than home matches

btw can I just point out to the PC fun Police that the team song for the players after a big win is 'TF and the Wire'!