To me its looks like discontent in the camp..the team spirit just didn't seem to be there this year..big shout for Grix though he was our one shining light..Higham, Joel and young Currie all at least looked like they were trying..

We are missing the player who controls our attack and the player who leads our defensive line. I am just looking forward to when we get them back on the pitch.

Why did Hodgson attempt to catch that ball in goal, it would have gone out, just leave it man, they scored of that set.

We look for the offload when it's not always on, sometimes the best option is to take the tackle.

Westwood is out of sorts this season.
Atkins is dreadful, passes when he shouldn't and doesn't when he should, his defending his dire and partly the reason Riley is made to look as bad as he has been.

Future captain material is definitely Ratchford, he's confident and has a swagger about him BUT his kicking needs to improve, it wasn't smart kicking at times and rushed.

Ben Currie's confidence is growing with every game and i'm personally really chuffed for the lad.

Grix is ever dependable
Doggie is easily one of top 3 wingers in the league.
Higham, what's happened to this guy, looking fantastic lately.

What a shocking performance. Shining lights as previously stated Grix, J Mono, Currie and Ratch when he wasnt kicking.

What happened to Myler again?

Where was the grunt in the forwards?

All that plus a statement from "her in doors", Why do our players look fat? Did me for a minute or two but then looking at some of our lot you can see that they are carrying more timber than last year. Is this a ploy to give more cushioning or are they a little on the porky side?

The additional off-loads and passes that are 'not on' come about due to players trying to make up for their poor play / form. They are over-compensating. Similarly gaps can appear as the next man in the defensive line comes in to help his neighbour make a tackle (because he is not confident he will make the tackle). Normally this is most evident on the wings as it leaves the door open to the winger. When players do find space or a gap, they rush the decision and make a poor one etc etc. So for me, these are all symptoms of the poor form and lack of confidence. But the 'disease', ie the main cause that has to be addressed is the need for 4 very high quality players around which we can re-build a good team again. The return of Briers and Morley will only be a 'stop gap' for this season.

Your season seems to be mirroring ours in 2011, with Mcguire and Peacock injured they are almost exactly like Briers and Morley being injured for you! They should be a big lift for you, as they were for us. But, wether any team is able to replicate what we did from fifth remains to be seen. Forget the final positioning doesn't matter argument, we were an exception not the rule.

Twice Atkins had open field to the try line in front of him and twice he hesitated as soon as he got the ball in hand.

as Ian says, match for match we are very similar to last year. Last year we drew with Hull; this year with Wigan. Last year we lost at Salford; this year we lost at Widnes. We lost away at Hull KR and Leeds last year as well as at home to St H. I agree we don't look good right now but lots of time to get into form and win the double.

I've read some tosh in my time but this tops the lot.

its a belter isnt it

While Child was woeful he was only a small part in our defeat. If you thought we were the better team then maybe we should call the blokes in white coats.

Don't panic, we were e last season until Catalans away in the cup. Having said that I'd say top four is realistically where we'll finish, not that league position actually matters.