It seems to me that fans only seem to trot out the 27 friendlies when their side loses. We have had play offs of some sort in our sport far more than we have had first past the post, yet it only seems to have been an issue for fans since Leeds won in 2011.

I do agree with this. It's never been an issue, until someone actually outside the top 3 won it. Then all of a sudden the regular season is a write off. Stupid.

I've never used the "27 friendlies" line exactly, but I don't think it's right that results are dismissed just when we lose. I went to the Wigan game and it was exciting and a good occasion but even as we were filing out of the stand we were agreeing that while it would have been nice to win for bragging rights it didn't have a great deal of bearing on the outcome of the season anyway.

On a positive note I do really hope the World Club Challenge is expanded in numbers and offers a real incentive to go for as high a finish in the League as possible.

worthy champions? as in,finishing 5th in the league for the last two seasons ( well behind on points diffs as well )and beaten wembley finalists for the last three seasons? hardly *worthy champions* --> imo !

After back to back trips to hull this was always going to be a tough game , especially with the injuries we had. We were poor however you have to give credit to KR for there performane and Dobson was class.

We just didn't have a bench to bring on - currie was okay , laithwaite was awful - constantly being busted of tackles , and tyke wasn't too good either. At a point in the game higham went off and another forward came on , think it was tyke , it went all downhill from then , Myler went to 9 and grix went to scrumhalf , we made too many errors and created nothing. hodgson and riley were poor also and williams was terrible.

I love ratchford but i don't think he's a stand-off.

I hope mike monas is back for the saints game.