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Quote: Phuzzy "Then you presume wrongly, as is often the case with making presumptions! My comment is not about Leeds winning the last two seasons (although the fact they have managed to do it from fifth has contributed to the prevailing attitude of clubs, fans and the media). I meant a devaluation to the week on week rugby. I find it sad that defeats and victories alike are now dismissed as meaningless. I understand that some fans are quite content to reduce the game to a knockout competition at the end of the season. I'm not one of them. That ok with you?'"

It seems to me that fans only seem to trot out the 27 friendlies when their side loses. We have had play offs of some sort in our sport far more than we have had first past the post, yet it only seems to have been an issue for fans since Leeds won in 2011.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "It seems to me that fans only seem to trot out the 27 friendlies when their side loses. We have had play offs of some sort in our sport far more than we have had first past the post, yet it only seems to have been an issue for fans since Leeds won in 2011.'"


I do agree with this. It's never been an issue, until someone actually outside the top 3 won it. Then all of a sudden the regular season is a write off. Stupid.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "It seems to me that fans only seem to trot out the 27 friendlies when their side loses.'"


I've never used the "27 friendlies" line exactly, but I don't think it's right that results are dismissed just when we lose. I went to the Wigan game and it was exciting and a good occasion but even as we were filing out of the stand we were agreeing that while it would have been nice to win for bragging rights it didn't have a great deal of bearing on the outcome of the season anyway.

On a positive note I do really hope the World Club Challenge is expanded in numbers and offers a real incentive to go for as high a finish in the League as possible.

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Quote: Ganson's Optician "How did you work that one out? Rugby League is a play off sport. I presume that by the game being devalued you mean Leeds winning the last two seasons. The only people you can really blame for that is Wigan and Warrington for not performing well enough in the play off series. Leeds have been worthy Champions, nobody can deny that. From what I have seen of Super League and the Championship this year the players put 100% into every game, fortunately they don't share this view that putting their bodies on the line for 27 weeks is meaningless. Take for example Batley v Halifax on Thursday night, a fantastic game which felt like a must win game. Would we have complained if we won SL from the back end of the table in the past? Of course not!'"

worthy champions? as in,finishing 5th in the league for the last two seasons ( well behind on points diffs as well )and beaten wembley finalists for the last three seasons? hardly *worthy champions* --> imo !

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After back to back trips to hull this was always going to be a tough game , especially with the injuries we had. We were poor however you have to give credit to KR for there performane and Dobson was class.

We just didn't have a bench to bring on - currie was okay , laithwaite was awful - constantly being busted of tackles , and tyke wasn't too good either. At a point in the game higham went off and another forward came on , think it was tyke , it went all downhill from then , Myler went to 9 and grix went to scrumhalf , we made too many errors and created nothing. hodgson and riley were poor also and williams was terrible.

I love ratchford but i don't think he's a stand-off.

I hope mike monas is back for the saints game.

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