we got our minibus from the Kings Head at 12.30 and got dropped off at the Moon under the Water in Deansgate then went the pub a few doors down the rd then the tram to the ground saw the game didnt see any trouble and got our bus back from near Old Trafford cricket ground we were back in the Kings Head with in 30 mins of leaving the game.

None of which changes the fact that if I was going to Warrington after the match I would have got there before you and possibly waved as my train went past you standing on the platform at Trafford Park.

If anyone wanted to be REALLY clever they could have gone to Stockport (five minutes from Piccadilly and loads of trains) and boarded the East Midlands train to Liverpool via Manchester and Warrington there, then sat comfortably in their seat as the battle for entry commenced back at Piccadilly!

Operated by the same people who regularily run two carriage trains between Liverpool and Manchester during the rush hour periods. A small sporting occassion aint going to change the c0ck-ups of a life time.

I would hope that you would be able to get there faster than a disabled person.

Knob!

Well for many of us that have never been to old trafford before yet alone a grand final, catching the train from Warrington, Padgate or Birchwood was the most direct route and should only have taken about 30 minutes.

It is wise having the foresight to know that was bad planning or like you who knows the train routes and times in and around Manchester not to make the mistake many of us made or were about to make

Next time and I hope it wont be too long I will revert to my Plan B as Saturday turned out, drive and park near the Lowry, home by 9.

Just maybe common sense would have dictated that the train companies would have put some extra capacity onto the rails. I spent 30 mins stood at Oxford road whilst the full trains just sat there at the platform unmoving.