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"Remember last time they were here, the Huddersfield Giants, they lost to a Luke Walsh drop goal. He's only scored four drop goals in his St Helens career has Luke Walsh and each and every one of them have been scored by Luke Walsh"[/quote:1h9um51j]: |
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| When commenting on the McGuire incident, you have to look at the McIlorum incident too as I believe that without the Wigan players ban Mcguire would probably have got away with it. McIlorums high shot came from the blind side, was very late and looked like (and only McIlorum himself would know for certain) a deliberate and premeditated shot to the head. McGuires looked more like an attempt from a relatively lightweight halfback to put a big shot on a forward, but a combination of poor technique, mistiming it and bad luck (Anderson going down as he came in) caused it to turn into a headshot. IMO the RFL, for once, got it about right with three games and one game respectively.
The League Leaders shield should be the holy grail for all clubs but the format of the competition is such that it means little when compared to the Grand Final itself. You could even argue that the format of the competition devalues finishing top even more as, such as this year, if one team goes all out to finish top, but another sacrifices that to stay healthy then the side that finishes top isn't necessarily the 'best team' despite finishing with most points. I'm glad we finished top last year if only so that, should we win on Saturday, we can't have it thrown back at us that we're a good 'Cup Side' but can't do it week in week out, but when it comes down to it the GF is the be all and end all.
How long have Saints supposedly been in decline now, yet they still keep making Grand Finals or getting very close to them. Eleven or twelve other clubs in SL probably wish they were 'in decline' too. I'm not sure if Nathan Brown is the right man for the job at Saints. It seems his head is turned too easily if/when a job downunder comes up. If I was a Saints fan I would be very worried about the now traditional mid season collapse that Huddersfield seemed to suffer most years. However I think that Saints will be there or thereabouts next season and any team that wants to get to, or win at Old Trafford, they're going to have to beat Saints at some point.
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| Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Agreed.
Back when the team that finished top were champions, wasn't the Challenge Cup the biggest competition in RL anyway?'"
It still is financially.... clubs gain much more revenue from winning the challenge cup then they do from winning the GF.
You can also argue that winning the challenge cup gains your club more supporters and countrywide recognition. I know people in London that don't even know what the grand final is... However, they do know what the challenge cup final is and they know that warrington 'keep winning it'.. Does this also not make the Challenge cup the more prestigious event?
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| Saints are not in decline in terms of results but more in terms of performance and entertainment.
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "go back a few years and they were seperate competitions the league followed by the top 5 premiership comp i still think league leaders need more recognition and the playoff spots should be reduced'"
Minor point, but in your signature you ref the SL Leaders Shield, but not the old League Leaders shield (Championship) from 72/3. You might want to add in-but save til Saturday night and kill two birds with one edit
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "go back a few years and they were seperate competitions '"
And go back a few more years and the vast majority of Champions in RL history have been decided by playoffs and a final - just like we did in 1955. It is not, despite popular myth, an idea dreamt up by Sky.
Quote: wolfinwidnes "the top 5 premiership comp'"
The premiership was top 8.
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| Quote: Dropkick Murphy "Agreed.
Back when the team that finished top were champions, wasn't the Challenge Cup the biggest competition in RL anyway?'"
What about further back, when the team that won the playoffs and Championship final were Champions, like we did in 1955?
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