he's an utter backside....

Sam Tomkins Needs protecting
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After a late high shot from Michael McIlorum
"I don't think the referee got it right. Leaving your team-mates in a massive game against your arch rivals is like a suspension in itself. I don't mind the sending-off if they are consistent through the year.
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what a door handle.

I can understand him looking after his players but on both counts he is wrong.

Sam's team mates should protect him and the officials should deal with what they see.

McIllorum deserved sending off, he was late high and I think it was intentional, not to hurt but to let the player know he was there. I don't think there is an argument for him miss timing it from the VT evidence, full on head shot.

If Saun thinks any different then he is deluded.

He might be a backside but he's won them the league in his first season in charge, with a lesser squad than ours, so he does deserve some credit.

only cause we kept resting players lol they only did it once really v widnes

Yeah Wigan have been playing their full strength team every week apart from that Widnes game

No excuse, we've got a bigger squad than them with better young players so we should have been able to handle it.

Sorry Sally don't agree, we have the same size of squad, they have some good youngsters.

I think it was to do with player 'resting' by us and a desire to play their best team each week. We were one point behind, one win where we rested players would have given us the LLS.

Tactics and a desire to gamble for the Super league play off trophy.

Hope we perform in the Play-Offs, but:

2nd in the League and another Challenge Cup isn't too bad from where we were a 5+ years ago.

He deserves credit, definitely, but so does Maguire for the legacy he left behind. I think Wigan have been a weaker side this year than last season, the problem for us being that we were weaker by a bigger margin. 2nd and Cup holders again is pretty good, definitely, but I reckon we could have managed top of the table as well with a bit less chopping and changing every week.

On another note did anyone else hear the Brett Finch interview on GMR. Wasn't happy to say the least.

ive got no doubt we have the better team just hope we prove it now it matters

I wouldn't exactly say we were weaker tbh. You look at the way we've rotated our squad this year, we've rested a lot of players throughout the season and some games in particular were lost due to this. If we had won these games then we would of come top of the league by some margin. Wigan have pretty much played a full strength team every week apart from the blip against Widnes.

As far as pure talent comes in to it; I believe we have the most talented squad in the league as can be seen by two wins of Wigan this year; the first was close but we were playing awful at that point and the second could be called a demolition and to be fair we didn't come out of third gear in that game.

Wigan will run out of steam in the playoffs like we did last year, and remember, nobody remembers who won the league leaders shield!