We could reduce the number of teams, we could also by default reduce teams income, and potential sponsorship by reducing the number of games. This would ruin the 4 teams kicked out but that's by the by. for me the fact we can;t produce 14 teams of 13 players without having second rate players or imports to top the teams up is the single biggest embarrassment rugby league has.

How about this for a radical idea - Why not invest in coaching better coaches at amateur and club junior levels, to make them better and give them the skills to regularly produce enough talent to fill 14 clubs, and not have to supplement our squads with overseas players and second rate e. who knows we may even be able to produce 17 from that lot who can do alright against other countries.

The players were good enough. The tactics were'nt. Cooper at left second row for the majority of the game? 3 players coming back from long term absence in one game? These were the problems not the age or quality of the players.

You are right Sal, if it was not for some of our senior players we could have got thrashed.

Those ball handling skills of Woody were fantastic, he must have glue on his finger tips. And Bridge, well his offloads were unbelievable. Morley - I can not remember him making less than 20m when he had ball in hand.

Bobwire above has it spot on IMO, it was a 'bad day at the office' for the team, combined with the return of 3 players with no SL matches in months.

That depends on other teams doing the same. Putting kids against a side full of Aussies you are always on to a loser, but all teams should be promoting youth.

I totally agree i thought you lot had the best u20s side , sorry got to agree got to promote youth and you have a lot of talent and think alot of your u20s team would be playing first team at most other clubs in other words your Blessed with youth dont knock it!!! you have always compared yourselves to wigan youth over the years and now you have the youth you want to shut door ! Be proud of what you have got cause one things for sure your the Envy of most other superleague clubs

Discipline , loose carries , bad options cost you the game , salford for sure have proved there youth teams have massively improved over the last 2 yrs solomona vastly overweight unfit surely cant be in Tony smiths plans for next year !!! Reminded me of owen Craige who played for us