you're having a giraffe, he's a good signing for em

Brown is a decent player for them. But the worst part of Widnes' game is their defence. Kevin Brown isn't really going to improve that area for them. They need to sign some players who can tackle.

Brown's a "7out of10" SL player. He's very good on his day, but, there's a lot better out there.
He puts me (a little) in mind of Kevin Ellis. Very good against similar standard (in his position) players, but when he's up against quality, he's a bit Emporer's New Clothes, and he gets found out.

Make no bones about it, Brown is a good signing for the Demics, but on this season's showing, Widnes need a whole new side. THEY'RE AWFUL!.Today, they were oblitterated in the forwards (for 75% of the game), awful in broken play (when we had the ball). They look collectively like a side that's resigned to the fact they're 5hit3, and they can't do anything about it. Yes, they "blew hard" for the opening 10-15 mins of the second half, but after we got another try, they just went even worse.

Widnes don't need Brown, they need prayer, and I can't see the next 2 seasons being much different, even with Brown in the side.
Shame really, as we need a strong Widnes due to their travelling support (in the past).
We allready have, Cats, London who bring no-one to away games.
The travelling Leeds/Bradford contingents have dwindled MASSIVELY in the last 4 or 5 years.
SL NEED a side who take large numbers to away games. At this moment, the Widnes side are lucky to get anyone watching them.

It's forwards that Widnes need; a whole new pack in fact.

I like Kevin Brown as a player but it will take a lot more than him to sort that shower out...

i have commented this on the widnes board but what they are missing is a spine in the team that work together, they have a hooker playing halfback and what half backs they have are supporting halfbacks they have no leading halfback. Halfbacks have to mesh together like briers is a leading goes with myler as a supporting, sinfield and maguire etc (hence why they looked a bit better with o'brien in the team as he is a leading style halfback)

also they are lacking an intimidating forward we have morley, leeds have bailey, wigan have hock etc the best they have is cross and he just gives penalties as he cant control his aggression.

brown is a good start as he will bring a bit of leadership but they need a good pack and i hope the rumour of tickle going widnes is true as it will give them a bit of biff upfront.

I think they need a decent Super League coach more than anything.

ps they need to get rid of betts and bring cullen down from his cushy upstairs job

Sign all the players in the world, it matters not if the coaching staff are not of the required standard. As we have proven.

Sign all the players in the world, it matters not if the coaching staff are not of the required standard. As we have proven.

Why Cullen?.....Let's be honest, Betts is their equivalent of Plange, and Cullen would be their version of Cullen.....so why not just skip the under-acheiving period and instead get a top class coach in, a la Tony Smith?

Cullen was useful to us for his first 3 years, his last 3 was a waste of everybody's time.