People from st Helen's are so STUPID !

Could be. I make it perfectly clear and lay my cards on the table.

My dirty little secret is, due to holidays and prior engagements, I haven't seen Warrington play at Wembley. I haven't been to either Wembley nor OT. But, I would rather this year wire get to Wembley again, than OT.

Maybe my view will change next year if we make OT this year. I am very aware of the status of the league (as I think many Warrington fans are) It was good to win that and I think it validated a lot of fans (myself included) but we have done that now and I think our goals should be much bigger.

Maybe there is an argument for my preference of Wembley over OT being one of bitterness towards the Super league competition as w hole. However, I don't feel that is the case, as I still want to get to OT.

Simple question for Saints fans:- lets compare RECENT trophies.

Agree entirely mate, as that would be a sign of our progress. But if you were to then tell me that we would lose the next 4 grand finals after that in a row I would probably slit my wrists.

As you are either drunk or mentally deficient I will answer what I can (the rest appears to be a rambling rant)


Waffle and has no relevance to either the initial query regarding the chant, nor the sub-discussion over whether Saints have declined. SCRAP IT! You make yourself sound moronic.



So you are chanting at opposition fans because of what 'impartial' pundits say in March? and you are expecting to be taken seriously with that? Pick a target and stick to it. Either you are chanting at the majority of fans or you are chanting at SKY. Make your fooking mind up!



arwww the Pièce de résistance of your painfully stupid argument; I will answer as best I can (I was originally going to ignore this as well as the opening paragraph)

I was simply asking a question that many Sts fans have ATTEMPTED to answer (with none providing a definitive answer) Furthermore, you also haven't answered the question (I wouldn't expect you to though- the chant is asinine) and instead have taken a very defensive stance that has attacked many, once cock-sure, saints' fans. Furthermore, as I state in my opening gambit (which is entirely honest) I had received a phone call after 7 o'clock today telling me it was being chanted last night (Alas, I didn't hear you). St Helens were as quiet as a mouse yesterday. The Wigan fans from last season out sung you and they were being trounced. Sorry.

Just as a reference. I stand at the 40 metre line in the south stand about 2 barriers up. Also, I am always there and I am sure someone here would be able to find me in the crowd.

It doesn't work like that though does it?

At the start of the season, all the top sides aim to win the Grand Final. You never know what will happen the following year.

The fact that we lost 3 in a row, and got there again.. lost 4 in a row, and got there again etc..
shows real desire and bravery.

I actually want a cup run this year and a break from Old Trafford, we need a clean slate. But still, to keep getting back there year after year despite the losing streak, is a phenominal achievement that should not be underestimated.

Especially when you consider it's always your year





This pretty much sums up the level of frustration and bitterness expressed in your posts



It's always your year
It's always your yeeaaarr..
Just like the last one
It's always your year

I defended the LLS but it's nothing to do with never winning the GF. I defended it because I'm a football fan first and my natural tendency is to view the league as the great achievement; I can't understand how any sport can view a short, domestic K.O. competition, as a greater achievement than winning a competition decided over 27 rounds of home and away games between all of the sides. I'm not saying the GF should be disregarded - Leeds' finish was stunning last season - but greater than finishing top of the pile after 27 rounds? Nah.

As a Wire fan, I'd like to see us win the GF and I'd be stupendously proud if we did, but I wouldn't go around rubbing it in the face of other clubs claiming they're crap or that 27 rounds of brilliance means nothing if you can't win three on the bounce at the season's end. It's the nature of sport fans to knock the achievements of others and big up the achievements of their own, but it seems to be something done by RL fans universally in their knocking of the LLS. For me, Leeds winning the GF was no greater an achievement than Wigan winning the CC, but Leeds will be claimed the 'Super League Champions', when really, they should be the Grand Final Winners.

By the way, there's no bitterness involved, I just find it mad how the hardest achievement seems to be viewed as a nothing achievement, yet we all buy season tickets to see our team play in that competition and hope the team wins every game in that competition. It's just weird.

I have to ask, did you come up with the chant?

Also, Back Row Singer, wise move on not using your brain to challenge what I wrote. You don't want people knowing you're an idiot for sure, do you?

You're spot on, it doesn't work like that. But I was just working on a theory of how knowledge before an event would produce a different opinion to after the event. As you said your opinion after losing lots of Grand Finals is to say that it shows real desire and bravery. Whereas had you known that you were going to lose lots of grand finals beforehand you would have probably thrown yourself under a bus or something. I honestly can't imagine anything more disappointing than that in RL sporting terms.

This entire thread just smells of paranoia.

Don't worry, it's not over yet, but if you can't take the singing on the terraces, well I would certainly not try to over analyse each song on an internet forum.

Maybe you would also like to discuss the validity of the LMS song, or the ade gardner song, or the Roby song, or the Saints light up my senses song.

Or in the end you could just accept you have been hooked by some fans singing a song and it along with the loss has bothered you so much you have had to create a thread to vent your small frustrations.

If you are going to analyse any song light up my senses makes the least sense as hardly any of the featured points of the song are actually relevant any more.