Consistently average yeah, from what I've seen of him hes decent in D but I'd like to see a bit more venom, and in attack he just seems to stroll it up in a leisurely manner!

We miss the hard angled runs that Anderson brought and some of his big shots in D

Right so today lets blame Louis Anderson!!!!!

I Blame Jon Clarke..

i blame rogues for not explaining why bridge should have been sent off v shuddersfield

He swerves more questions than a chat show host..

My view too.

Big Dave ?

No no no he was throwing wayward passes and being crap in defence last year...he is the last thing we need throwing in the mix at the minute.

I'd say we miss Matt King quite a bit, due to his shear size it was like having an extra forward driving the ball away from our own line, he made quite a few yards plus it that gave the forwards a breather.

Also his defence was very under rated, he hit hard and strong. The combination of Atkins and King on that left hand side was a powerful one. We don't really have the high kick option to our left as neither Chris Riley or Ryan Atkins will be anywhere near as good as Matt King was in the air.

We deffo miss Louis Anderson's aggression and strong running on the fringes, i'm sure Trent Waterhouse will get better once he settles over here, you don't become a fairly regular test and origin player without having something about you.

We miss Matt King's offensive qualities, that's for sure. But give Trent a bit of time.

We are missing another forward for me. With Ben Harrison out long term, Benny Westwood missing on Friday, no Solomona (not at his best at the end of last season granted), the drive in the tackle is fading with Mozza, Woddy seems to hae stopped that excellent sprint hard into a tackle drive he's had over the mast few years, and the drive forward that Louis gave us (he was always excellent in the big games)...all means we are a little thin on the ground in the forwards for me.

Chris Hill looks quite good so far, Trent's D is very good, but I feel we've not got a real tackle buster/line breaker in the forwards (we're offloading when we're being gripped tight in tackles, not when we're getting our arms free or busting through). This may be down to form and hopefully Benny will give us some back when he returns this week!

Interesting to compare how we have started this season without King compared to how we started last season without King. Last year he was taken off injured in the first game of the season and didn't come back till round 12.

After 9 games last year we had won 6, lost 3; after 9 games this year we have won 6, lost 2, drawn 1, so we are a point better off, also we have had a hard start to the season this year and beaten Wigan and the table toppers Huddersfield so encouraging signs that we have adapted better without King than we did last year.

Just registered that someone in the East stand on Friday night was were a jumbo afro novelty wig. Somebody should probably tell the guy Kingy's left.