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Quote: Horatio Yed "I understand you know more about me on this Walter but i'm looking at what he does on the pitch more as what he does on the training ground, i haven't yet seen him have a good game, i've seen him look disinterested, i've seen him labouring about and not showing anything like the form we have been told he is capable of9granted not every game), at the end of the day of all the guys we've had on the wing and i include Rhys Evans and Riley, heck even Kev Penny he's looked the least effective and sadly the least interested, i'm not going to say get him out in fact i hope 2012 is the year he proves a lot (not just me) wrong but i haven't seen anything in him in which i would pick him over either Riley or Evans.'"

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The sheer instead of Ths heer.

C'mon, you should have got that, he almost turned it Yorkshire for you T'sheer

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Quote: jdrocket "Ths heer incompetence of most of the team and staff??'"


On what grounds are you classing most of the England team and staff as being incompetent?

How would you judge Atkins' competency on those grounds?

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Quote: Manx Warrior "Contract Extensions mean nothing when the R U come a calling which they very well may do especially for Atkins he would walk into an R U side'"


They can mean the best part of a million quid. Leeds got £800k for Harris, Wigan got £900k for Robinson and £750k for Tuigamala, they wouldn't have got that if the players weren't on long contracts.

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"Come, follow me, and I will show you how to fish for people!" Matthew 4:19 Things I learned on 11/08/12 Gareth Hock can't pass Gareth Hock can't run Gareth Hock can't fight [url=http://www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/256856/Gareth-Hock-relives-drugs-ban-hell/:22njixh9]I'm assured he can snort a line of coke the size of a Mecca dauber though.[/url:22njixh9]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_51898.png



Quote: sally cinnamon "On what grounds are you classing most of the England team and staff as being incompetent?

How would you judge Atkins' competency on those grounds?'"



On the grounds of recent results, sir.

The team aren't very well organised or disciplined. I also, personally, have no faith in McBanana or his selection choices. I know I wouldn't want to be a team with Ryan Bailey.I was speculating that Atkins may feel similiarly.

There is nothing to be gained from international rugby except a abuse, a good hiding and a holiday and, as he won't get a holiday, I can see why Atkins may have packed in the idea.

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Quote: Manx Warrior "Contract Extensions mean nothing when the R U come a calling which they very well may do especially for Atkins he would walk into an R U side'"



They (RU) may well come calling.
ATEOTD, our club (and other clubs) own the contracts to these (promising) players, and as Sally says, the club will get recompence, should RU 'dangle the carrot'
They get the player they want
The player doubles his dosh overnight
The club gets lavishly compensated for the loss of the player
A youngster (hopefully) moves one place up the pecking order.
We wake up the following day, and RL is still here.
As Del Trotter would say "Every One's a Winner...pot pourri"

As a sport, we've got to (through gritted teeth) realise that kick and clap is a much bigger sport than ours, now. They can 'rape and pillage' our best players, as we did to them for decades. It's called life. Deal with it. Until league starts getting huge crowds for 75% of SL teams. Until we get decent attendances for our internationals. Until the Southern based media ('cos that's all it is now. There aren't many newspapers with sportsdesks/offices in Manchester anymore) wakes up and aknowledges our sport, I'm afraid we're 'p1551ng in the wind'
RU has huge financial clout.
RUs Sky deal is better.

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