Its not rocket science to see that league and play-offs are 2 completely different comps. How can you call a team that finishes 5th and 13 points behind league CHAMPIONS! The champions of super league, confused? ditto.

Its quite simple really, dont know why your confused? Do ya not watch Superleague?

I don't mean to be rude but why have you lifted your head above the trenches on this thread.

I assume it is to test some new bait. The fact is a lot of people are happy for Leeds, although dismayed and a little embarrassed at the circumstances involved.

I thought Leeds played very Wireesque in the first and final 20 or so mins and I congratulate the team on being better in the playoffs than everyone else. However, Leeds are hardly the best team in the competition this year. I can name 4 teams (according to the league) which performed a lot better.

It is a bit like the scrawny kid going round thinking he's the bee's knees after the school bully has seizure while beating him up.

If we look at this realistically (and the history books will not) but Leeds had one good game where they dominated in the playoffs (and infuriatingly it was against Wire- who didn't turn up and aren't use to playoff footy) Saints were dominating Leeds on Saturday until Wellens and Shenton were forced off; after that it was a formality.

Well done on winning the 'big one' but i am perfectly content with watching Wire tear every team, next year, a new bum; just like this year.

top 4 play off i.e 1 v 4 and 2 v 3 play it over 2 legs

Im sorry, are these forums not for discussion? Why is everybody on here so paranoid about wums and baiting?

Whats embarrassing is reading all the keyboard warriors writing exactly how they think the league should work and how their idea is better than the next mans just because Wire & Wigan choked at the crucial point!

We all know the craic at the beginning of the season and Id be quite happy for you to watch Wire rip it up next season only to fall at the penultimate hurdle.

The GF should become what it always was - the Premiership - and handled as a separate competition.

Haven't seen you around since your lucky (although hard earned) victories against wire and sts in the playoffs.

Now with your small number of posts, you either created a new profile just to speak on the wire board (unlikely), were banned in a previous guise (likely) or have created an id just to bait Wire fans. That is all.

I'll leave it with the feeling of 'see you next year for your annual spanking by wire (as of late)' and I hope for your sake that you reach wire on a ty day ; like you did this year.

Wire fluffed their lines and I can't see it happening every year. More likely is Leeds will struggle again next year and hopefully Wire will punish them. I say this purely based on the evidence this year and it is likely that Wire will have an off day again next year (hopefully not in a semi against a 5th place pretenders team)

I stick by my previous post (sorry if Rhinosaund III does not agree) but this system does reflect that the most consistent team over the season does not win the SUPPOSED Champions title ie play-offs -5 game knock-out comp at end of regular season.By the way well done to Rhinos they played fantastic to win play-offs,but as stressed prior they are in no way LEAGUE-CHAMPIONS. They are PLAY-OFF CHAMPIONS.Hope that clarifies everything over the hill!!!

sums everything up pretty well

suppose you are defending the the vile cheap shot merchant too ,everybody was up in arms about sam tomkins sticking the v sign to the leeds fans how much different is it than what that coward bailey done to the wire & saints fans in the previous 2 weeks , i was sat in the east stand and soon as the hooter sounded to end the game bailey started goading the wire fans , very proffessional eh

In answer to your first paragraph i am an ex longterm BBC 606 poster. Just about getting used to the different format on here gradually. Didnt know it was a crime to post on other teams boards, thought that was the whole poi t? Same name for the past 6+ years but new to RL fans since Jul.

Secondly, weve been delivering annual spankings to a number of teams for years so dont get too carried away with this season. We are the veterans to your rookies.

Thirdly, Your right, it probably wont happen every year, but then again who couldve predicted what happened this year.

And finally, Pretenders??