Rob Wire, you want to make an appointment for you and Ron at the psychiatrists.

You have got obsessive compulsive behavior disorder, every post you make you mention Wigan even if the thread is about other matters. You two are never off the Wigan board.

I was speaking to a player friend of mine about how its done.... and at the end of training its a case of

"right lads.... MOS voting time"

"FFS im playing golf this afternoon...... right... who is everyone voting for this year?"

forum filled in as fast as possible and off to the golf course.

it's given all of 2 seconds consideration.

Don't they vote at Easter or something daft, when Cas were good & Chase looked decent.

If he was only good at Easter, please explain to me how he kept accumulating points to win the Albert Goldthorpe Medal.

That means their instant decision was Chase - doesn't make it less valid. If the players can't put that extra thought in (and most can't as let's be honest they are typically a bit daft) then so be it.

That James Lowes should have got some kind of coaching award. 3 successive CC finals and 2 Grand finals.