That's just it pal, 'couple'.

I'll sit here nice & relaxed now, FWIW - I think you might have more than a 'couple' just to get to OT, Enjoy.

I don't really see what Robbo is posting to be so irksome lefty if I'm honest. Yes the penalties he gave were all there to be given, I think what got people's backs up was that suddenly those penalties [iwere[/i being given, look back over the games in SL so far this season and most of what was punished against Hudds was being let-go.

To be honest, the main thing that [ireally[/i gets my back up as far as being penalised or not goes, is moving forward off the mark before playing the ball. There's an argument to say that if the defence is set and the ref doesn't move them further back, then the attacking team are just chewing up their own space and they won't get any benefit from it - but this isn't quite the case, on numerous occasions this season, I have seen this happen on sky games and there is one common result of this particular tactic being used, that is, the ball player moving forward off the mark makes it impossible for the defending markers to get square, on occasions these markers will make a reflex tackle on the dummy half, this results in a penalty against the defence for not being square - infuriating, since the penalty should be for not playing the ball on the mark.

There. Rant over!

You misunderstood me Robbo, I didn't say Hudds forced Ganson to give the penalties, I said they were there to be given, There's a difference. And truth be told, there were many more "there to be given" from both teams during the rest of the game, too.

But the way he reffed the game was with the sole intention to create a good flowing game of rugby league by stopping players lying on and messing about at the play the ball which Huddersfield aim to do in every game to try and even things up. Huddersfield either had to change the way they play or keep giving penalties away - they chose the latter because they don't know any other way.

I think the reason Wigan fans have got so upset over this is because they aren't used to see quick play the balls and 'flowing' games of rugby league with Madge in charge!

Let not forget either that refs will speak to the captains before the games and let them know "how" he will be reffing. Will he be allow time at the POB, will he be going back 10 yards, or 11 etc.