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| Picking a lot of out of form players like sinfield shentons not having his best year nor is hall mcllorum is another surely there are other options like the young players from saints ie foster and lomax.. Robinson surprised me he played real well should have kept him on for 80 IMO'"
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| Quote Gary High="Gary High"Westwood has to be the most under rated player in SL.....I'd have him in a Wigan shirt over any other player in the England team on that performance.
Sinfield has to be the most over rated player in SL !'"
Why would he want a wigan shirt? Does his car need cleaning?
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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"BUT SINFIELD IS A LOOSE FORWARD
I don't give a flying 5h1t3 if he's played there (because Danny McGuire's been injured for 9 month) all season. He's out of position, and I'm afraid at that level, you get found out, and surprise surprise....we have been......AGAIN'"
agreed, why not play Kevin Brown or Lomax?
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"agreed, why not play Kevin Brown or Lomax?'"
Kevin Brown is injured and Lomax was simply ignored.
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| Quote Paul Youane="Paul Youane"Problem is Rogues that there are some idiots out there who think players are done and dusted once they turn thirty.
Tonight Georgie Boy certainty showed what crap such people are spouting; hey?'"

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| Quote lefty goldblatt="lefty goldblatt"Peacock looks a bit lost (atm)
Sinfield, I've said this before (and been derided by over-protective Whinos fans), is (at best) a VERY good SL player...and that's where it ends
Hall is just a good SL player
Let's be honest, who out of tonight's Englad 17, would worry an Aussie international 'C' team...not many...certainly not any of the 3/4 line, that's for sure...going across the side...the Aussies would only be worried about Graham (and possibly Weswood and Tomkins) even getting a look-in.'"
the aussies would not be worried by anyone in an england shirt..there was a few decent performances tonight but we`ve no world class players the aussies have lockyer slater thurston etc who are miles ahead of what weve got..
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| A lot of people have been saying that Kevin Sinfield was poor, is it just me or does Sean O'Loughlin look poor at International level, i can't remember seeing him have a good game.
If all our english players were available i'd say that this would be close to our strongest starting 17. I like Jamie Peacock as a person and he's been a great player but i think he's coming to the end of his career now and shouldn't be in the international team, i wouldn't have Sinfield or O'Loughlin in either. Not sure about Shenton either at this level, i'd go with Yeaman ahead of him as he's in form and playing well.
1. S Tomkins
2. Ben Jones Bishop
3. Chris Bridge
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Jodie Broughton/Tom Briscoe
6. Jonny Lomax
7. Danny Brough
8. A Morley
9. Luke Robinson
10. James Graham
11. Ben Westwood
12. Sam Burgess
13. Gareth Ellis
14. James Roby
15. Joel Tomkins
16. Gareth Carvell
17. Eorl Crabtree
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| Went really well last night did Westwood. After Meli slam dunked Sam Tomkins, Benny was the only England player who was having none of it. I know he missed the initial impact, but the attempted smash on (Manu?) and the subsequent running back in for seconds, really lifted the game.
I dont think he is the smartest RL player in the world, but he is one of the most committed and brutal in the game.
Regards Peacock, i think it is time to call it a day now.
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| If Sinfield was a warrington player, who'd play him at stand off ahead of Briers?
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| Quote Rob Wire="Rob Wire"A lot of people have been saying that Kevin Sinfield was poor, is it just me or does Sean O'Loughlin look poor at International level, i can't remember seeing him have a good game.
If all our english players were available i'd say that this would be close to our strongest starting 17.
1. S Tomkins
2. Ben Jones Bishop
3. Chris Bridge
4. Kirk Yeaman
5. Jodie Broughton/Tom Briscoe
6. Jonny Lomax
7. Danny Brough
8. A Morley
9. Luke Robinson
10. James Graham
11. Ben Westwood
12. Sam Burgess
13. Gareth Ellis
14. James Roby
15. Joel Tomkins
16. Gareth Carvell
17. Eorl Crabtree'"
Can't do with some of them selections Rob.
For me McGillvarey(sp) has done enough to warrant selection. Widdop would get the stand-off shirt. Robinson is not going to worry the Anzacs and I think his "headless-chicken" running last night did England no favours - great against France counter-productive against good teams.
Whilst splitting hairs I'd have Burgess as 13 and Ellis at 12 so that Burgess would be my fourth prop (I notice Gallen has been picked at prop for NSW!!!!).
So off the top of my head:
1. Tomkins
2. Briscoe
3. Bridge
4. Yeaman
5. McGillvarey
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Morley
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Westwood
12. Ellis
13. Burgess
14. Lomax
15. Harrison
16. Tomkins
17. Crabtree
I would worry about the lack of cover at hooker so may against my better judgement put Sinfield on teh bench in lieu of Lomax or maybe include Haughton there from Hull if I was certain Roby couldn't do the full eighty.
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| Anyone catch Westwood on twitter regards the Tomkins booing, lets just say he wasn't impressed.
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