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Picking a lot of out of form players like sinfield shentons not having his best year nor is hall mcllorum is another surely there are other options like the young players from saints ie foster and lomax.. Robinson surprised me he played real well should have kept him on for 80 IMO

I agree, like i was saying on the other page, Robinson actually caused Australia problems in the 4 nations and was one of very few players that could come home with their head held high. He's really improved over the last 2 years especially since Brough's arrival, he's done well for Huddersfield and England at hooker.

Thought westwood was awesome tonight ! He just gets better and better doesnt he.

Robinson impressed me at Hooker aswell didn't really rate him before last night, but i thought he was really good.

Think sinfield was poor though

McGillvaray (how DO you spell his name?) would be bombed into oblivion. It is unfortunate, but a reality that 6' plus threequarters are a requirement of the international game, especially when you look at the height of the Aus threequarters.

Sorry I'm not having this Robinson "love-in". I can see what people are saying about him being one of England's better performers last night and in the Four Nations but to me that's part of the problem: he looks good in a losing team. For me he is one of the reasons that it is a losing team.

I concede the twenty metre breaks from dummy half that usually come from about 30m out of our own line are good but I think he has a "Michael Sullivan"-ness about him when he goes off-script when the team are in a good attacking position leaving his "creative" half-backs looking lost and seeing the like of Myler having to go into acting half for the next two tackles whilst the play is set-up again only to find you're on last tackle with a defence not remotely stretched and ready to defend the last tackle option.

No doubt people will say Robinson was better than Buderous last night because Buderus wasn't as "showy" but there can be no doubt that Buderous' service to Chase and Leluai allowed them to shine as they knew exactly where the dummy-half service was going time after time.

Buderus didn't need to be showy as they had Lueluai and Chase in the side for that side of their game, Buderus just needed to be a rock with good distribution where as Robinson had to take on the mantle of being our creative player as the creativity with ball in hand certainly wasn't going to come from either Sinfield or Myler.

Thats not having a go at Myler as everyone apart from Steve McNamara recognises that he isn't an attack minded scrum half in the mould of Danny Brough, by pairing Myler with Sinfield (who has looked anonymous at 6 before for GB/England) then we wern't going to have any natural creativity, Robinson would have recognised that like any good player would have done so the onus was on him to try and break their line along with making us good yardage from acting half.