Joel Tomkins

That's the problem. You haven't argued your case at all. you've just listed a series of names. If Wilkin played at Wigan you would be raving about him.

Carl Ablett - I cant be the only one who hates him, and think he's terrible can I?
Ian Kirke - Never has a bigger man since the might of Warren Stevens mastered the art of making minus yards in each tackle.

Did either of Anthony Farrell or Darren Fleary ever win anything with Leeds? Shameful if so.

Kirke is average. A big unit and if he punched his weight he'd do damage, but he just seems to lack that edge.

Ablett is decent, not good, but he does a job in a squad. Similar to Hansen with us.

I dont mind Hansen these days, ever since Morley destroyed him and he had the balls to get up and play on.

I doubt any 'average' player could now forge a career in SL. Stupid thread.

I think Hansens a good player. But at the same time he wouldn't get in the side ahead of Hoffman/Tomkins/Farrell. He's a workhorse and everyone needs one.

paul wood

Any of those 4, in fact, average is praising some of them

Farrell and Fleary were merely cheapshot merchants, one of whom got "owned" by that waste of space (in a Wire jersey) Andrew Gee

Briers.




According to the narrow minded.