I find it bizarre that everybody is suddenly talking up Saints pack on the basis of signing Perry and LMS and losing Cunningham. Yes they will be putting a strong pack on the field but no stronger than they have had in recent seasons. But it seems like this year its been very 'in vogue' to be talking up Saints as having a monster pack for some reason - its not as strong as it was a few years ago when they had Cayless, Fozzard and Faasavalu at their peak and a young Graham as the fourth prop, with Cunningham there still, now that was a good pack. Josh Perry is decent but again is he as good as Saints Aussie props of the past like Fairleigh and Britt....time will tell.

When Daniel Anderson was Saints coach then they were comfortably the strongest team in SL, now they aren't, they are one of a group of teams who will be competing for trophies, the others being Wigan, us and Leeds. I would not be surprised if they have a bit of a testing season, with a few surprise losses to lower ranked teams and pressure on Royce Simmons at some point in the year, only for them then to come through and be there or thereabouts when it comes to Wembley or Old Trafford.

Are you Phil Clarke, Rogues?

What utter nonsense. Roby was Saints' player of the year and players' player of the year in 2010 and deservedly so. He was miles better than Cunningham over the year - don't let a couple of emotional barge-over tries at the end of the season warp your perspective. Roby comprehensively outplayed KC in the GF too; KC was invisible.



I'm more interested in the effect signing LMS/Perry will have on our back rowers - with a bit more grunt up front, I expect TP and Wilkin will be far more dangerous in attack in 2011.

I've thought Roby's been a much, much better played then KC for a few years as well. Just whenever Roby's been on the field (at Hooker) has usually coincided with prop rotation where Saints haven't really had decent 3rd/4th props for a couple of years.

Harrison isn't as great defensively as people make out. We notice his big hit's but he misses alot of tackles.