It's not a free education, somebody as to pay!

alot of people will not be receiving a pay rise for the next couple of years is it right that they fund young Tarquin in his degree on David Beckham!

This arguement has more holes than a sieve
No policemen were hurt, cobblers. Two separate news media companies (BBC and Sky, I dont watch ITN, I prefer my news bulletins to be aimed higher than the audience of SpongeBob Squarepants) reported that the police received x amount of injuries (I can't remember the amount now, but their figures did tally).
Clips showed officers being carried away to receive treatment.
Even if the Police weren't hurt, what were the intentions of the rioters (that's what they are) towards the Police when they were throwing rocks,snooher cues and metal bars...to tickle them. NO, THEY WANTED TO HURT THE POLICE.

You've only seen the Cenotaph once and had to have it pointed out to you. "FLIPPING HECK" HOW POOH THICK ARE YOU

In case you don't remember, every November, huge amounts of the population wear red poppies and reflects on the hundreds of thousands of British Troops who have lost their lives defending our lands and that of our allies. Many of them assemble round the Cenotaph (yes, that thing you've seen on the news over the years that says THE GLORIOUS DEAD and is always called The Cenotaph. I hope this helps. I new what the Cenotaph was, and what it stands for while I was at junior school). You really must be a little "silly".

And your corker "he made a mistake".








A mistake is picking up the wrong brand of beans when you go shopping
A mistake is totaling up a few numbers and getting the answer wrong.
A mistake is putting a red sock in a whites wash.
A mistake IS NOT climbing up on a war memorial, swinging on a flag and generally acting like a knob. It's called unacceptable behaviour and I hope he gets punished appropriately.
When are people (and their sympathisers) going to take responsibility for their actions, instead of classing it as high jinx, and pleading for leniency when they get found out.

I've seen you write some questionable material on this forum over the months, JDRocket, but this has a cherry on the top of it.

FWIW, I hope everyone, protesters and Police, who've transgressed in these sorry episodes, get what's comming to them. As I said before TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS

Your argument is completely full of holes and has absolutely no substance to it. Do you really think that the various news agencies would actually bother to report from the areas where there was nothing going on and ignore the places where there were problems? The fact is that most students went there to lawfully demonstrate, but their demonstration was taken over by a number of diverse groups who were hellbent on causing trouble. I strongly suspect that many of the people causing problems were not students at all, but were full time agitators. Your argument re the Centotaph is just pathetic. Whether Mr Gilmore wanted to cause offence or not, he did offend a large number of people and the argument that he can be forgiven because he was full of drugs is ridiculous. I strongly suspect that you are a student yourself, probably a law student. If that is the case you should know that being drunk or under the influence of drugs is not a legal excuse for wrongdoing.
You also mention the Police actions and that had the demo been in France there would be cars burnt etc. Maybe you should look at some of the recents demos in France and look at the Gendarmerie response.
The fact is that there was violence towards the Police and they responded to it.

look again at the photograph

Again people are making the mistake of believing that just cause you know something the world must.
I will say that it was a few years ago I had to have it pointed out to me. I wasn't looking for it. It was more of an aside. I can believe the same happened with this Charlie guy. It is perfectly reasonable to believe that like me this guy was probably in school at on the 11th November every year. Don't insult me because you can't empathise with other people.
If your figures about police injuries are correct. I apologise. I had watched it all night and i don't remember any news of injured policemen. I do remember however that the "rioters" as you call them were a small minority of people. People, who had been forced back into a kettle and then beaten with batons. It all began with the tactics of the police. They put them into a confined area and then used undue force. Some may have been trying to hurt the police. (I don't speak for them) but the police with the gear on were hitting young adults and children who were there for a peaceful protest.

Why do people who are short on intelligence here resort to name calling. I am not thick, by any stretch. I would appreciate if you didn't call me it. It only highlights your weakness to put your point across.

It was a mistake. A huge one. But still a mistake. Unless you want to believe that he intended to desecrate fallen soldiers that day? I don't.

You are right, though. Those that went there to cause trouble (not the students who planned a peaceful protest) should receive punishment. They intended to do harm and there is no excuse.

Can soon put an end to all this.Get the water cannons out.Apparently listening to the radio today they cost 1 million each + the water is very cold which in this weather being soaking wet would feelike your in the Arctic.Not many would hang around then.Only problem would be that the peaceful demonstrators would get wet.Mind you some of these students wouldn't mind a free bath i bet

Radio 2. Everuone has right to voice their opinion. Its called freedom of speech,but when some upper class moron.Causes the outrage he has then he must take responsibility. But he will get a slap on the wrists,do you think if he was a lower class chav.He would get the same.

It all began with the protesters ripping up the metal barriers and trying to ram them into the police at head height,
that was the first flare up. Did you not see this? the police stood their ground and took this abuse for quite a considerable amount of time, when the police did advance they were using shields to push the rioters back, even though some of the protesters were trying to decapitate the police. Seriously jd what would expect the police to do stand there and take it like a punch bag?

As for Charlie boy, his step dads band recorded an album about the loss of life in war and the effect it had on those left behind, I'm sure charlie would of listened to it at some point, I don't believe for one minute he didn't know what he was doing, he was acting the big anarchist in front of his mates swinging on the union flag!

Unfortunately for charlie somebody took his picture, silly little rich boy.

Brutum, out of interest did you support the Police during the Miners' Strike? I would be interested to hear of your comments surrounding the 'The Battle of Orgreave'. Made the student rally look like handbags.

PS: Your user name tickles me. According to a common definition it refers to an empty threat or charge, or a void judgment which is in legal effect no judgment at all. I found that funny. Then again I was a student once before I started paying tax again.

But not on Rememberance Sunday...