At least hill walking or playing sports are actually healthy pursuits, any injuries picked up are just unfortunate events.....However, I wouldn't say sitting on your couch, or sitting in the pub, growing a belly can be classed as a healthy hobby.

I don't deny anybody's right to be whatever weight they want to be, but if you choose to become obese then you really can't complain when people take the p!$s, that's human nature.

We dont.

not really, it wasn't the sizist remarks that offended it was the implication that fat people are somehow socially less apt or able, along with a belief expressed that access to medical provision should be witheld due to our poor life choices. i am aware that these are personal beliefs but also believe i have a right to challenge them.

on the joke front, i find all offensive jokes highly amusing and believe there are very few boundaries that should not be crossed when it comes to humour. as long as the joke does not promote hatred or try and oppress anyone i think bring it on.

thank you, that's the point i was trying to make, next stop eugenics. the goverment introduced the N.I.C.E guidlines to try and decide who should get treatment and introduced cost as a measurement, it is begining to fall flat on it's face because no one person is more deserving than another when it boils down to it. health care should not be driven by market forces, it should be diven by need.
just because cancer drugs are expensive does not mean they should not be available.
the question is where do you draw the line?

if you get lung cancer from smoking----- no treatment
get cancer from working down the pit/ with asbestos----treatment


both lifestyle choices!

The revenue that smokers pay to the Treasury, which is 90% of the price, amounts to about £9billion.
Health care costs for smokers is about half that figure, so the Treasury makes a big profit.
Have you ever wondered why the government doesn't make smoking illegal?
They can't afford to.

I believe a lot of the current governmenty are smokers.

Cameron and his cronies were well known for bumming fags when at Eton.