Wanting to swap would diminish our achievements of the past 2 years and that is something I am not willing to do.

We should be proud of what our club has managed to achieve and to hell with anyone who disagrees.

Yeah the likes of Huddersfield, Bradford, Catalans and Leeds all being semi-pro. Three of them teams have beaten you this year.

He's a "Saints fan".

Although they too are trying to disown him.

With the exception of Leeds who had an off the day, all the others are randoms.

I was making the point that back to back CC wins arent that rare.

when we compete in a grand final i`ll be able to answer this question...but i would imagine grand final day would have to be out of this world to beat my wembley outings...2 fantastic days out..now if you were to ask a saints fan back to back wembley triumphs or 4 losing grand finals in a row???

I mentioned the 8 cups because someone else already had on this thread. Back then, Wigan effectively went bust twice through overspending, and badly damaged the whole sport in the process. I have praised Wigan's efforts this season all over the place because now they have won SL legitimately under a professional but sporting management. The 80s/90s owners were egotistical pirates.