I think tbh it's quite obvious you have a ageing squad with you key players reaching the end of there life span

Yeah the likes of Huddersfield, Bradford, Catalans and Leeds all being semi-pro. Three of them teams have beaten you this year.

He's a "Saints fan".

Although they too are trying to disown him.

With the exception of Leeds who had an off the day, all the others are randoms.

I was making the point that back to back CC wins arent that rare.

when we compete in a grand final i`ll be able to answer this question...but i would imagine grand final day would have to be out of this world to beat my wembley outings...2 fantastic days out..now if you were to ask a saints fan back to back wembley triumphs or 4 losing grand finals in a row???

I mentioned the 8 cups because someone else already had on this thread. Back then, Wigan effectively went bust twice through overspending, and badly damaged the whole sport in the process. I have praised Wigan's efforts this season all over the place because now they have won SL legitimately under a professional but sporting management. The 80s/90s owners were egotistical pirates.