I would rather have the two challenge cup's. The whole feeling off waking up at 5am to board a coach and not returning till about 10pm makes it a better experience. It is a bigger achievement winning the grand final but Wembley is better than it.

Yeah the likes of Huddersfield, Bradford, Catalans and Leeds all being semi-pro. Three of them teams have beaten you this year.

He's a "Saints fan".

Although they too are trying to disown him.

With the exception of Leeds who had an off the day, all the others are randoms.

I was making the point that back to back CC wins arent that rare.

when we compete in a grand final i`ll be able to answer this question...but i would imagine grand final day would have to be out of this world to beat my wembley outings...2 fantastic days out..now if you were to ask a saints fan back to back wembley triumphs or 4 losing grand finals in a row???

I mentioned the 8 cups because someone else already had on this thread. Back then, Wigan effectively went bust twice through overspending, and badly damaged the whole sport in the process. I have praised Wigan's efforts this season all over the place because now they have won SL legitimately under a professional but sporting management. The 80s/90s owners were egotistical pirates.