And that is why you are known as the bitters, and that is why you will always be a small club comperad to us. Its that ingrained small time mentality that sees small time victories as more important than the real stuff that matters. The GF will always matter more than a one off game against a rival to any truely proffesional team.

FWIW I have the same frustration with our own fans regarding the attitude towards Wigan. Like you with us, we will always be in their shadow due to the silly little mentaility of so many of our fans.

To be fair it's just my own opinion and I imagine most people on here will disagree with me.

Let me tell you my scouse friend - when we do eventually beat saints in any game, important or not, home or away, it will not classed as a small time victory.

You have to experience it from our side of the fence to understand. It must be the same for you when you face Leeds in a Grand Final.

...............small club mentality also includes taking the view of one individual and declaring it the view of the entire fan base. Even the poster sees the truth of this. As an older fan I've seen Wire beat Saints plenty of times so whether or not we win again at KR before it's knocked down is irrelevant to me.

This type of person is more prevalent in your fanbase than in others. obviously not all fans but a massive hardcore of proven terminally bitter people towards us.