There was a thread about 'how to beat Leeds' and it worked so this one may... . What is the key to beating Saints, weaknessess etc?

Come on the Wire. NOW the WirE.

I hope we have finally got wise to the Wellens running on Graham's shoulder waiting for the off load routine.

Quite simple, really. The players just do 2 things.
1. Keep mistakes down to a minimum.
Great sides (which Saints are) always seem to punish mistakes by the opposition, with a try in the ensuing set of 6 tackles. Wigan were masters of this, when they were in their pomp of the early 90's.

2. Keep penalties to a minimum, too
This links in with the point above

You starve sides like Saints of the ball, and they struggle.

Judging by our performance at Wembley (apart from the opening 10-15 mins) we gave Leeds little ball possession, especially in our half, so, we went on to win.

We keep our 10-20 metre zone (from our try line) tight, and we'll win the game.

Everybody labels Saints as the great entertainers (which they are), but I'll wager the majority of their tries are scored from plays WITHIN 10 metres of the opposition try-line. I'd say the majority of ours (this season) are outside - without having Phil Clarke to back me up on this stat.

Do the basics right, which we didn't do at home a few weeks back, and we'll win.

Can we also hire that tuppeny ha'penny hypnotist Paul McKenna, to get inside our player's heads, and tell them that they're invincible at Knowsley Road

Will you shusshhh!! Good god man your talking like there is a gaping chasm of ability between the two sides and there clearly isn't.

Argueably, Warrington ARE a better side that your lot regardless of league position. I know you'll come back with 'could of, should of, would have' arguements but Warrington should have beaten Saints twice this year. There was only a number of missed kicks between us at your place and even though you won by two points, we WERE the better team at the HJ. We gifted you 4 points and if the game had been even just 60 seconds longer I am 100% sure we'd have got another score.

And its very convenient you chose this stage of the season to refer to the league ladder to justify your 'Saints are better than Warrington' arguement rather than the previous 25 / 26 rounds when we have been up to 6 points infront of you!!

We ARE a better team than Saints, we know we can beat your lot, its just a mental thing preventing us!

So ner!!

Try and slow their ptb down and keep an eye on Wellens hitting the line.

In the SL game at the HJ our marker defence was poor and Roby tore us to pieces. The other problem we had was that we kept forcing passes in near impossible positions which simply handed Saints possession. Cut out the errors and sort out the defence around the play the ball and we've got a great chance.