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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"There is a huge difference in player ability and the salaries that Wire have been offering for the last couple of years.
Not that I am suggesting in anyway that your club is over the cap.'"
Why are you the clubs accountant or you just guessing what the players are earning. We have never gone over the salary cap due to staying within the rules unlike other super league teams.
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| Quote SEB="SEB"Alot of pure fantasy in that post. I think you'll find it's much harder to "hide" extra payments and gifts than you think it is. Even small things such as a few quid raised by a raffle at a testimonial event get the taxman sniffing, so to think a club could easily hide several hundred thousand pounds is absurd. And I can assure you WWRLFC are not.'"
It's not fantasy, all of those examples are possible and wouldn't be found unless someone wanted them to. It is not at all hard to 'hide' payments made from third party companies to other third party companies.
It's naive to assume things are tidy and everyone is now whiter than white, just because they say they are.
Does the Melbourne example not ring any alarm bells? That is a far more professional competition, far more strictly examined and they didn't get anywhere near finding them until they were tipped off. I'm not suggesting teams definitely are cheating, but there are more than enough ways they could if they were desperate.
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| Quote Geordie="Geordie"Only if you are Wigan and Bradford.
Under the live cap as we are now, it is impossible to go over it.'"
 Always makes me laugh when i see that, naivety at its finest. The only thing that is live is the contract that is submitted, quite easy as Storm have proved to break the salary cap in other ways...
Before you get all upset, im not accusing Warrington or anybody of breaking the cap...
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"It's not fantasy, all of those examples are possible and wouldn't be found unless someone wanted them to. It is not at all hard to 'hide' payments made from third party companies to other third party companies.
It's naive to assume things are tidy and everyone is now whiter than white, just because they say they are.
Does the Melbourne example not ring any alarm bells? That is a far more professional competition, far more strictly examined and they didn't get anywhere near finding them until they were tipped off. I'm not suggesting teams definitely are cheating, but there are more than enough ways they could if they were desperate.'"
Saddened, before you continue to waffle $h!te, do us all a favour, and list the squads of ourselves, Saints, Wigan, Leeds & Hull, and then estimate each individuals salary.
Total each side up and I bet that not one of them is significantly higher or lower than any other.....The Salary Cap accusation aimed at Wire is just jealously, pure and simple, based on the fact that we have a benefactor who is not afraid to spend cash in the transfer market, which, just to clear up, as balls all to do with the cap.
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| Quote The Angry Pirate="The Angry Pirate"Saddened, before you continue to waffle $h!te, do us all a favour, and list the squads of ourselves, Saints, Wigan, Leeds & Hull, and then estimate each individuals salary.
Total each side up and I bet that not one of them is significantly higher or lower than any other.....The Salary Cap accusation aimed at Wire is just jealously, pure and simple, based on the fact that we have a benefactor who is not afraid to spend cash in the transfer market, which, just to clear up, as balls all to do with the cap.'"
I've not suggested Warrington were over the cap. Just that it's very naive to assume all clubs do behave whiter than white.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"I've not suggested Warrington were over the cap. Just that it's very naive to assume all clubs do behave whiter than white.'"
I agree, but why do folk seem convinced that it is Wire breaking the rules and nobody else??
Look at Saints' squad.....The likes of Pryce, Wellens & Cunningham will be earning as much as anybody at Warrington for a start....Throw in your overseas players, who won't be on a pittance, and I'm pretty sure we could make a good case for you lot cheating the rules (again).
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| Quote The Angry Pirate="The Angry Pirate"I agree, but why do folk seem convinced that it is Wire breaking the rules and nobody else??
Look at Saints' squad.....The likes of Pryce, Wellens & Cunningham will be earning as much as anybody at Warrington for a start....Throw in your overseas players, who won't be on a pittance, and I'm pretty sure we could make a good case for you lot cheating the rules (again).'"
And Graham he will be a top earner at the club no doubt.
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| Quote 'Hitman' Norvern Soul="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"We've hardly got a great number of players that would realistically be on top whack to be fair.'"
I personaly think think the cap should be upped , and let these lads who put there body on the line week in week out be paid what they are worth , the career is so short and are one bad tackle away from loseing there income , when you think how much footballers get , it makes me gringe, these lads are warriors , not just in sl but all leagues,some none league footballers are on more money than a lot of pro rugby players , pay the lads what there worth up the cap and let them all have a fair whack !
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| Quote SEB="SEB"Alot of pure fantasy in that post. I think you'll find it's much harder to "hide" extra payments and gifts than you think it is. Even small things such as a few quid raised by a raffle at a testimonial event get the taxman sniffing, so to think a club could easily hide several hundred thousand pounds is absurd. And I can assure you WWRLFC are not.'"
Out of interest, how would this scenario play out.
Matt King is a RL professional player and also a majority shareholder of an Australian Limited company (PTY). Said company company enters into a deal with SJM to provide promotional services for a range of concerts in return for a fee of £80K.
Matt King, in addition to his dividend income (taxed in Aus) from the above also takes a remuneration of £100K due to his UK employment with Warrington Wolves RLFC. This may indeed go through HMRC in the UK.
So long as Matt King accounts for his UK income and Australian income appropriately for tax purposes in each country I cannot, for the life of me, see what grounds the RFL would a) become aware of the SJM deal and b) what law/rule has been broken and c) what powers it would have to punish WWRLFC due to the business dealings of seperate legal entities d) how they would withstand the legal appeal against any possible salary cap punishment.
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| Quote knockon="knockon"I personaly think think the cap should be upped , and let these lads who put there body on the line week in week out be paid what they are worth , the career is so short and are one bad tackle away from loseing there income , when you think how much footballers get , it makes me gringe, these lads are warriors , not just in sl but all leagues,some none league footballers are on more money than a lot of pro rugby players , pay the lads what there worth up the cap and let them all have a fair whack !'"
So are you happy to pay more at the turnstyles and increase your Sky subscription? The money has to come from somewhere and most pro RL clubs run at a loss.
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| Quote karetaker="karetaker"
im fed up with seeing our club being mentioned on other forums about this,seems being succesful means your cheating
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Not just other forums! Didn't Stevo pass some comment regarding Warrington and the salary cap during the coverage from Edinburgh?
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