It will be interesting to see what the RFL will do in 2 years when they decide who will get a licence, so many clubs were granted a licence on the grouds of new stadiums in the pipeline, with the recent credit crunch some clubs have struggled with finances and their plans have gone up in smoke. Will they apply special rules to let clubs in or will they be strong and kick them out??

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That last line might come back to haunt you- The WRU over the last 16 months have developed a strategic plan to create a new 5th Welsh regional team based somewhere in North Wales, 12 months ago they chose Colwyn Bay to be the base and Parc Eiras will have quite a lot of money spent on it for upgrading, theyve just appointed Clive Griffths to head it up and last week the Welsh Ru Youngsters played Australia youth in Colwyn Bay

Additionally Rugby Canada are going to allow some of their more Experienced players to come over in the next few months to help them develop at the right pace ie not rushing the project- saying that Leicester Tigers are sending a team up there next month to play a game

Make no mistake the WRU are serious here and , theyve got plenty of money and time and theres an amateur infrastructure already there - once again it seems whichever door we open RU are in first

if you search around theres plenty of stuff about this on the web -

Phil the WRU have no plans to opt for a fifth team - the North Wales team is a lower tier side anyway to suggest that a side like that are somehow competiton for a SL side team based in Wrexham is ridiculous especially as Soccer is the first love of that area anyway .

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youre right as in the short term theyre aiming to put them in the welsh premiership , but ive no doubt what the long term aim is , and that by growing it slowly it will be sustainable . if they pull it off they'll have a huge advantage in recruiting young players and with what theyre spending on investment and infrastructure theyre serious , given that Wrexham is only 45 minutes drive from Colwyn Bay id say most definitely its competition-

the soccer side comment is right but that will very likely always be the case

wrexham is only 33 miles from warrington so an easy travel for wolves fans but now many fans will travel from warrington on home gates of 9000. 1000 if wolves are lucky

Why don't Widnes merge with Crusaders and play somewhere in between, say, Chester?